Request related to - but not for - 1.20

[lindsay40k]

I've been crafting maps for BTS I'd like to transfer to HR. I'm holding out for 1.20 as they've got a place for Brazil

It would be really helpful if we could have a couple of stickies added to the forum; one with a list of each Civ's starting cities (including variants by leader), and one with a guide of how to edit a BTS Worldbuilder file so that HR can load it as a scenario (if this is possible).

The starting cities point is kinda important, as I put a lot of effort into making fun but balanced starting locations for everybody. With lots more starting cities, that's a lot more potential starting locations to balance up! And enabling transfer of scenarios from BTS to HR, we can tinker with resources and Savannas and get a bunch of scenarios available very quickly

 

[Xyth]

A starting city list is easy enough to put together. Remind me once 1.20 is out, but in the meantime, you can look at the file /History Rewritten/Assets/XML/Civilizations/CIV4CityInfos.xml to get an indication of which leader starts with which city.

Making worldbuilder files HR compatible is a bit trickier. If they're blank maps that you're importing then they can probably be fixed with a series of Find/Replace operations. However, if the map contains placed cities and borders and the likes it gets a lot trickier.

 

[lindsay40k]

I make a 'master' map with no settlements and use that to make scenarios, so that shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Xyth]

I make a 'master' map with no settlements and use that to make scenarios, so that shouldn't be a problem.

What are you using to make/edit the map? Worldbuilder or another tool?

 

[lindsay40k]

Mostly worldbuilder, with occasional 'under the bonnet' tinkering in the text file itself. Find-and-replace instructions aren't usually a problem.

 

[lindsay40k]

By the way: is there any chance of a 'lite' installation option without Blue Marble? We prefer the simpler basic terrain graphics, and most of us have low spec hardware & prefer to keep things simple.

 

[Xyth]

Mostly worldbuilder, with occasional 'under the bonnet' tinkering in the text file itself. Find-and-replace instructions aren't usually a problem.

What happens when you try to load one of your master maps into worldbuilder in HR? Any error messages?

By the way: is there any chance of a 'lite' installation option without Blue Marble? We prefer the simpler basic terrain graphics, and most of us have low spec hardware & prefer to keep things simple.

Not really, sorry. Maintaining two versions is a lot of extra work for little gain; Blue Marble terrain uses up a little bit of memory, but a miniscule amount compared to all the unit and building art in HR. It's not too difficult to remove manually though, just a bunch of files and folders that need to be deleted. No XML editing needed. Remind me once 1.20 is done and I'll post some instructions.

 

[lindsay40k]

Haven't tried loading maps, yet. Like I say, I'm postponing HR on this temp laptop until 1.20, it's got loads of performance issues and I'm avoiding too many big install/delete/reinstall cycles.

 

[Xyth]

Haven't tried loading maps, yet. Like I say, I'm postponing HR on this temp laptop until 1.20, it's got loads of performance issues and I'm avoiding too many big install/delete/reinstall cycles.

Ah yes. I guess wait and see how it goes when you eventually try. If there are issues, you can send me a copy of the file. I'll see what needs fixing and note down the process for you for future reference.

 

[ales_]

1.20 is out. Reminding.

 

[lindsay40k]

1.20 is out. Reminding.

The freecycle laptop with which I replaced my deaded iMac died. I'm down to a G4 iBook that can't even run Civ3 -.-

But even though I've no way of making a map, it'd still be nice to see a list of cities, at least

 

[Xyth]

Sorry to hear about your computer troubles. I've started making a civilizations reference chart which indicates capital city for each leader, it won't be ready till I finalize 1.21's leader and trait changes but I'll probably post it earlier than 1.21 itself.