Mistfit
Deity
Is there no AI involved at all in this game?
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f we go BW then head straight for IW, no detour.
That said I like the notion of starting down the Monarchy road early, becoming a Celtic kngdom early and using Republic only when we have our position solidified. That means 12-16 towns, most of them at pop7.
So to me that suggests Warrior Code, then Mysticism, figuring we can trade for BW.
Looking at it that way leads me to the BW->IW conclusion.
That said I like the notion of starting down the Monarchy road early, becoming a Celtic kngdom early and using Republic only when we have our position solidified. That means 12-16 towns, most of them at pop7.
So to me that suggests Warrior Code, then Mysticism, figuring we can trade for BW.
Looking at it that way leads me to the BW->IW conclusion.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Gotta love the name of our capitol. We need to have XTC's "Mayor of Simpleton" as our national anthem.
soul_warrior
Termite!
Sir Bugsy said:
it also adds up to my demented mind to add "Mothership Connection" as our battle hymn.
voted late, but totally agree on BW > IW.
Daghdha
Absent Minded
Brother Soul will say Aye to anything that makes for a goodSW said:
soul_warrior
Termite!
especiallyDaghdha said:Brother Soul will say Aye to anything that makes for a good
Kickbooti
Ecclesia Militans
Since I'm always happy to jump onto a consensus band-wagon late in the game, my vote would also be BW - IW.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
OK team, Bw will become known in two turns, then we'll research IW. Where should we go from there? I could make a case for continuing research up the top level of the research tree. Everyone else is probably going for one of the goverment techs or philosophy. If we continue on the top tier we'll have a better chance at a SGL. Plus if we have a monopoly on a few techs, we might be able to trade with the others.
I think we might want to head towards construction and/or currency.
I think we might want to head towards construction and/or currency.
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
10-4 on that one. Republic is going to be hard to pry from people's hands in my opinion. People know how valuable it can be and would grant that to a neighboring civ cheaply.
Crakie
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I vote to shoot for Monarchy. It's our best bet to get out of despotism asap:
- We already start with a monopoly on CB. I doubt the others will go for that early on, which will give us the headstart needed to keep getting monopolies (and SGLs).
- We will not be able to trade for republic easily
- We have to research 1 tech less, although I don't know how that compares in terms of beakers
- It fits perfectly with a GS rush... I suspect we won't need to research at 100 % so we can save some money
- Fighting human opponents will probably translate into more losses compared to fighting the AI. WW will be more of a problem, monarchy will solve that.
- We already start with a monopoly on CB. I doubt the others will go for that early on, which will give us the headstart needed to keep getting monopolies (and SGLs).
- We will not be able to trade for republic easily
- We have to research 1 tech less, although I don't know how that compares in terms of beakers
- It fits perfectly with a GS rush... I suspect we won't need to research at 100 % so we can save some money
- Fighting human opponents will probably translate into more losses compared to fighting the AI. WW will be more of a problem, monarchy will solve that.
To add one thing to Crakie's good list:
Celts are REL so government chnages are cheap.
Head for Monarchy.
Does our Department of Intelligence have any input on the research choices of the PBEM Demogame crowd?
The total beaker cost of Monarchy is just a little more costly than Republic with the Philosophy gambit for a nation that starts with Alphabet. And about the same otherwise.
Celts are REL so government chnages are cheap.
Head for Monarchy.
Does our Department of Intelligence have any input on the research choices of the PBEM Demogame crowd?
The total beaker cost of Monarchy is just a little more costly than Republic with the Philosophy gambit for a nation that starts with Alphabet. And about the same otherwise.
It is almost a lock (in my little brain at least) that the other teams will go for monarchy. They can't afford to change governments so my thinking is they anticipate war through a good part of the MA's and the only other government they would consider is commie (and that's a big maybe). They won't want to deal with 5 or so turns of anarchy. With that being said I think we can really be at an advantage if we monopolize that tech. I agree with Crakie. Wouldn't we still have a chance of a SGL if we go this path?
Kickbooti
Ecclesia Militans
So...many...question... 
Okay, as a registered noob, these may be neophyte, but I have to ask...
IF it is a foregone conclusion that everone else will be rushing toward Monarcy
AND given that as a religous civ we can switch government's more easily
Would it make sense to go for Philosophy/Republic and rely on trades with our chosen ally to fill in the Monarchy route?
That assumes that anything along the Republic route would be worth trading the Monarchy techs.
Also, which route would give us a better shot at a SGL; the Monarchy route where we have the CB advantage (that may be lost becuase we are going for IW) or the Republic route that may be less traveled?
Another question, on the chance we are blessed with a SGL, is there a consensus as to what we should use him for? Scientific golden age or is there a Great Wonder that would be worthy of his sacrifice? (If I understand the rules correctly, GML can't be used for Wonders, but SGL can.
As of yet, I don't have an opinion, I just had to ask so...many...questions...
KB
Okay, as a registered noob, these may be neophyte, but I have to ask...
IF it is a foregone conclusion that everone else will be rushing toward Monarcy
AND given that as a religous civ we can switch government's more easily
Would it make sense to go for Philosophy/Republic and rely on trades with our chosen ally to fill in the Monarchy route?
That assumes that anything along the Republic route would be worth trading the Monarchy techs.
Also, which route would give us a better shot at a SGL; the Monarchy route where we have the CB advantage (that may be lost becuase we are going for IW) or the Republic route that may be less traveled?
Another question, on the chance we are blessed with a SGL, is there a consensus as to what we should use him for? Scientific golden age or is there a Great Wonder that would be worthy of his sacrifice? (If I understand the rules correctly, GML can't be used for Wonders, but SGL can.
As of yet, I don't have an opinion, I just had to ask so...many...questions...
KB
IroquoisPlisken
Brigadier Idiot
Well, one thing I DO know is that Scientific Golden Ages are bugged and don't work.
But what if the other teams are figuring the same thing, so one or more head for Republic in a hope to trade? Or maybe they are planning on being peaceful or not having many wars too early (Greece may be thinking this because of their Hoplites).
