Resolution 1701 passed ... will it last?

Will UN Resolution 1701 last?

  • YES it will work.

    Votes: 7 9.2%

  • NO it will be violated by Israel.

    Votes: 9 11.8%

  • NO it will be violated by Hezbollah.

    Votes: 33 43.4%

  • NO it will be violated by Lebanon.

    Votes: 1 1.3%

  • It's a another UN joke.

    Votes: 22 28.9%

  • Don't know, don't care, no opinion.

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    76
Leatherneck said:
Because so many want it to be fair ... level the playing field and quit the whining that the US isn't a bully. Fair on my planet is a equal portion.
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Well then, this isn't your planet. The US is more powerful than the other countries in terms of demographics, so it should fund at a similar level. If you want to pay the same then we would have to relinquish a lot of US territory to countries such as Nauru and San Marino. ;)
 
Truronian said:
Well then, this isn't your planet. The US is more powerful than the other countries in terms of demographics, so it should fund at a similar level. If you want to pay the same then we would have to relinquish a lot of US territory to countries such as Nauru and San Marino. ;)
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It is to my planet I have a reciept.:lol: Point is the US pony up most of the money to keep the UN a float and more then the rest of the countries combined. We get call bullies and the bad guy ... well as I said if you pay the bill or at least the lions share of it, then you decide where to eat. Fair would be everybody pays a equal portion or do it based on population. You country has 60K people then you pay less than a country of say 1.5 billion but it's the same per citizen.
The US recently forgave over $100 million in loans to the UN and they whine that we don't pay enough ... when we pay more than anyone. Please.
Far as I'm concerned the UN and go sell cookies if they need money.
 
Leatherneck said:
It is to my planet I have a reciept.:lol: Point is the US pony up most of the money to keep the UN a float and more then the rest of the countries combined. We get call bullies and the bad guy ... well as I said if you pay the bill or at least the lions share of it, then you decide where to eat. Fair would be everybody pays a equal portion or do it based on population. You country has 60K people then you pay less than a country of say 1.5 billion but it's the same per citizen.
The US recently forgave over $100 million in loans to the UN and they whine that we don't pay enough ... when we pay more than anyone. Please.
Far as I'm concerned the UN and go sell cookies if they need money.
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Last I checked the US paid 22% (followed by Japan who payed 19ish%), hardly the lion's share (or more than the rest of the countries combined). Considering the US gets a seat on teh Security council and Japan doesn't, I'd say the US is by no means getting the worst deal.

I do agree that the UN needs to be looked at and reformed, or at least its handling of international politics does.
 
brennan said:
Last I heard the US owed the UN hundreds of millions. Hmm, where's that link...

Ouch, I stand corrected.

U.S. arrears to the UN currently total over $1.3 billion.
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I'm awear of that and mainly it is because the US taxpayer is getting sick and tired of paying the UN's way and the funding hasn't been approved by congress. The United States gives $13.3 billion tax dollars in direct Foreign Aid annually. The United States is above and beyond the single most generous benefactor of the United Nations, donating $2.4 billion dollars of tax payer money, to primarily third-world dictators.
This amount is 25% of the United Nations budget. In addition, the United States also gives another $1.4 billion tax dollars to United Nations' programs and agencies. The American taxpayers fund more for the United Nations than ALL of the other 177 member nations COMBINED. (that includes England)
So what do we owe that UN ... that way I see it we owe them nothing. I put little value in a WIKI link to easy to edit by anyone. If the UN wants there money take it out of Kofi Annan Oil for Food bribes.
 
Why would we expect this resolution to be any more successful than any of the prior resolutions? Another stillborn half measure from the UN.
 
Leatherneck said:
I'm awear of that and mainly it is because the US taxpayer is getting sick and tired of paying the UN's way and the funding hasn't been approved by congress. The United States gives $13.3 billion tax dollars in direct Foreign Aid annually. The United States is above and beyond the single most generous benefactor of the United Nations, donating $2.4 billion dollars of tax payer money, to primarily third-world dictators.
This amount is 25% of the United Nations budget. In addition, the United States also gives another $1.4 billion tax dollars to United Nations' programs and agencies. The American taxpayers fund more for the United Nations than ALL of the other 177 member nations COMBINED. (that includes England)
So what do we owe that UN ... that way I see it we owe them nothing. I put little value in a WIKI link to easy to edit by anyone. If the UN wants there money take it out of Kofi Annan Oil for Food bribes.
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You pay 22% of the budget. 3% more than Japan. The 'assessed contribution' that represents is based upon a country's ability to pay - in other words it is income tax and perfectly fair.

Proof of the bolded claim?
 
F! the UN! Why would we pay anything to a corrupt, inefficient organization that spends every waking moment attempting to screw us and our allies?
 
brennan said:
You pay 22% of the budget. 3% more than Japan. The 'assessed contribution' that represents is based upon a country's ability to pay - in other words it is income tax and perfectly fair.

Proof of the bolded claim?
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3% more than Japan? hmmm ...
From Globalissues.org in 2005

USA $27,457,000,000
Japan $13,101,000,000

Not sure how you do your math, but in my math that is about $14,356,000,000 more than Japan ... over twice as much, somewhat higher than 3%. Granted most rich nations don't meet there goal which is where you arrears come from, nonetheless the US ponies up year after year over twice as much as the next guy. For us lowly tax payers it gets old when your school needs a new roof and your having chili cookout and fish fries to raise the money for one. So you kids class room stays dry.


Actually the pays 25% but we give more additional money above and beyond what is asked and then thay whine about peacekeeping fees.
 
Norlamand said:
Why would we expect this resolution to be any more successful than any of the prior resolutions? Another stillborn half measure from the UN.
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Exactly. Why are we expecting this one to work when the othe one did not?
 
Leatherneck said:
USA $27,457,000,000
Japan $13,101,000,000

Actually the pays 25% but we give more additional money above and beyond what is asked and then thay whine about peacekeeping fees.
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No: After years of simply refusing to pay, the 25% assessment ceiling was changed to 22%, and the US was given a little debt relief (oh, the irony). I believe the figure above would include the US' voluntary contribution. Whine about that all you like - or you could just volunteer less.
 
brennan said:
No: After years of simply refusing to pay, the 25% assessment ceiling was changed to 22%, and the US was given a little debt relief (oh, the irony). I believe the figure above would include the US' voluntary contribution. Whine about that all you like - or you could just volunteer less.
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No irony is that the UN could think we owe them money when we give them voluntary contribution.

If it was up to me which it's not I volunteer to give zero and move the UN to say Worthing.
 
Well it seem the cease fire didn't last 24 hours, the news say that Hezbollah as fired rockets into Southern Lebanon onto the withdrawing Israeli troop and Israel is returning fire. That would be about 2:50AM Lebanon time.

Will it start back up, to early to tell.
 
there are separate reports of where shots were fired. some where isreali shot at armed men that were near one of their bases.

but as for the resolution, jon stewart put it best and described it as half time:lol:

i think its not going to work, because besides stopping the warring parties, it doesnt solve anything in my opinion
 
BEIRUT (Reuters) - A fragile truce took hold in Lebanon on Monday, prompting a wave of refugees to return to bomb-blasted villages in the south, as Hizbollah claimed victory in the month-long war and Israel vowed to hunt down its leaders.

Ground clashes, Israeli air strikes and Hizbollah rocket fire ceased after the 0500 GMT deadline, but the Israeli army said its troops had shot five Hizbollah guerrillas, killing at least one, after the truce. The troops had felt threatened.

source
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Just in no published story yet as it happened within the last few minutes...
10 Katyusha Rockets Explode in Southern Lebanon, IDF Says
 
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