I didn't even own a computer before 2007 and knew absolutely nada about games, well, board games like Catan I played, but I had never even heard of a single game for which you needed more than a solid wooden table to play it. So I came around a bit later. I think it goes for a lot of regular posters here at the moment that they discovered the game a bit later. For newer games I would need a better computer as well. Civ IV I can't run. Civ III I'm hardly playing anymore, as I'm sort of 'been there, done that', and I'm not looking to get back into it. If there are games I'm looking to get back into it are Heroes of Might and Magic III and Age of Wonders Shadow Magic. For those you can make maps and that's sort of a hobby of mine.