Returning Wonders-Elimination Thread

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Angkor Wat 26
Borobudur 24
Great Mosque of Djenné 18
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 8 - 3 = 5 (Agreed on prior reasons stated. Firaxis has gotten St. Peter's and the Kremlin confused so many times. most Civ fans probably don't know the difference. I'm all for a St. Peter's wonder, but not all that interested in the Kremlin for now. I demand cooler, more distinctive wonders, not a fortressy, Pentagon-esque spy/modern military wonder!)
Machu Picchu 25
Neuschwanstein 17
Notre-Dame 26
Parthenon 22
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 16
Statue of Liberty 12
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 31
Temple of Artemis 15 + 1 = 16 (One of the original Seven Wonders. I don't see why whether it still stands matters in terms of it needing to be in the game. No one would swipe the Hanging Gardens off from Civ wonders just because it no longer stands, right? As for Artemis, the Greeks commonly represented her as chaste and nevertheless the goddess of fertility. If you want to swipe the Greeks off the civilization list for this weird representation, be my guest. And almost all the Greek gods killed mortals. I don't see how this should impact the wonder's virtue, however. It was important enough to be rebuilt 3 times so clearly there was some value there.)
 
I added Versailles back, please do not make that error again.

Angkor Wat 26
Borobudur (24+1)=25 The best wonder to represent Indonesia in the game.
Great Mosque of Djenné 18
Himeji Castle (20-3)=17 There are multiple Japanese castles, but is this one the best? I'm not quite sure...
Kremlin 5
Machu Picchu 25
Neuschwanstein 17
Notre-Dame 26
Parthenon 22
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 16
Statue of Liberty 12
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 31
Temple of Artemis 16
Versailles 25

The Hanging Gardens likely never existed. It has never been verified by archeological excavations in Babylon. It's more likely the gardens existed in Assyria. Assyria and Babylonia were often confused for the other by the ancient Greeks.
 
Angkor Wat 26
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 18
Himeji Castle 17
Kremlin 5 - 3 = 2 Never cared for this one there are a lot of better Russian marvels that can be used instead of this.
Machu Picchu 25
Neuschwanstein 17
Notre-Dame 26
Parthenon 22
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 16
Statue of Liberty 12 + 1 - 13 too low compared to other on this list.
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 31
Temple of Artemis 16
Versailles 25
 
Angkor Wat 26
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 18
Himeji Castle 17
Kremlin 2 - 3 = ELIMINATED It's ill-representative of Communism/Order and St. Basil's Cathedral is depicted instead (and that too is ill-representative of communism or order, especially the former, given the ideology's explicitly atheist nature)
Machu Picchu 25
Neuschwanstein 17
Notre-Dame 26
Parthenon 22
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 16
Statue of Liberty 13
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 31 + 1 = 32 I always wondered why is this not in the base game; it's very much the only specific building in India someone who never been to India can name (oh, and it's also among the most beautiful mausoleums in the world)
Temple of Artemis 16
Versailles 25
 
Angkor Wat 26
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 18
Himeji Castle 17
Machu Picchu 25
Neuschwanstein 17
Notre-Dame 26
Parthenon 22
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 13 (16-3) doesn't look very spectacular from what I have seen. kinda looks like a spiral cone coming out of the ground.
Statue of Liberty 14 (13=1) would like to see more water type Wonders. this one could have restriction of needs to be adjacent to 3 coast tiles to help the island type version on the Wonder.
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 32
Temple of Artemis 16
Versailles 25
 
Angkor Wat 26
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 18
Himeji Castle 17
Machu Picchu 25
Neuschwanstein 17
Notre-Dame 26
Parthenon 22-3=19 - Smaller than Temple of Artemis, not one of the original 7 wonders. And it's part of Acropolis, which is Greece's unique district, so it's technically in game already...
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 13
Statue of Liberty 14
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 32
Temple of Artemis 16+1=17 - Bigger than Parthenon, one of the original 7 wonders.
Versailles 25
 
Angkor Wat 26
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 18
Himeji Castle 17
Machu Picchu 22 (25-3) a more or less ordinary mountain village. Even neighbors from the same time seem more impressive when it comes to 'I'd like to build that' like Pisaq and of course Qusqu. Doesn't fit civ VI. Why would I want to build a small village on a mountain in this game in Medieval or Renaissance times? All others left are rather impressive structures that shine and acquired fame. Machu Picchu hasn't done that for a long time, only since it's 'mystified' rediscovery and reconstruction. And don't argument with the 7 modern wonders, that campaign was a bad idea to start with.
Neuschwanstein 17
Notre-Dame 26
Parthenon 20 (19+1) I'd exchange this marvel any time for the temple of Artemis. The Acropolis is no reason to exclude it, more or less every city in that region had/has one, which is why it is the unique district. The Parthenon is built inside one of those, but you can't build temples in civ VI's theatre districts.
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 13
Statue of Liberty 14
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 32
Temple of Artemis 17
Versailles 25
 
Angkor Wat 26
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 18
Himeji Castle 17 + 1 = 18 This is falling fast. The fact is: we need at least a Japanese wonder in the game as fast as possible. There are many impressive Japanese structures, and Himeji Castle is one of them. But since this is the only Japanese wonder on the list, I give it an up vote
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 17
Notre-Dame 26
Parthenon 20
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 13
Statue of Liberty 14
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 32
Temple of Artemis 17
Versailles 25 - 3 = 22 The choices have been difficult, I want to see everyone from the list in the game. But I need to give a down vote for Versailles since I prefer Notre-Dame.
 
Angkor Wat 26
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 18
Himeji Castle 18
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 17
Notre-Dame 26
Parthenon 20 - 3 = 17 (Rather dull, and inferior to the Temple of Artemis, even if it has beaten it in *modern* fame due to its current extant state.)
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 13
Statue of Liberty 14
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 32
Temple of Artemis 17 + 1 = 18 (One of the Seven Wonders. That's all that need be said, frankly.)
Versailles 22
 
Angkor Wat 26
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 18
Himeji Castle 18
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 17
Notre-Dame 26
Parthenon (17-3)=14 The little temple in the Acropolis District for Greece is pretty much the Parthenon. And there are too many Greek style temples in this list for each to stay distinct in the game...
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret (13+1)=14 Sure, it looks like a Spiral tower, but I think it's still very impressive for the time period. Together with the former Mosque on one tile, it can look even more impressive. Plus, the game could use some more Islamic wonders.
Statue of Liberty 14
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 32
Temple of Artemis 18
Versailles 22

How much do we know about the Temple of Artemis' appearance? There's not much left from what I can tell.
Strangely, the Mausoleum of Halicarnassus' Civ6 appearance is based on an old drawing of it made from a much later period.
 
Angkor Wat 26
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 18+1=19 - Beautiful, iconic and even from Africa... I want it.
Himeji Castle 18
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 17
Notre-Dame 26
Parthenon 14-3=11 - I'm not interrested in it. And the temple in Acropolis district looks pretty much like Parthenon. I'd rather have the Temple of Artemis, one of the original seven wonders.
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 14
Statue of Liberty 14
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 32
Temple of Artemis 18
Versailles 22
 
Angkor Wat 26
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 19
Himeji Castle 18
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 17
Notre-Dame 26
Parthenon 8 (11-3) look ordinary and as other said looks like a Wonder we already have in the game.
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 14
Statue of Liberty 15 (14+1) I'll give Her an up-vote i think it look good.
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 32
Temple of Artemis 18
Versailles 22
 
Angkor Wat 26
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 19
Himeji Castle 18
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 17
Notre-Dame 26
Parthenon 9 It is absolutely stunning, culturally significant, and its marbles are one of the main attractions of the British museum. It has to be top 10 at least.
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 14
Statue of Liberty 15-3=12 Every other remaining wonder is more significant in my view
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 32
Temple of Artemis 18
Versailles 22
 
Angkor Wat 26
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 19
Himeji Castle 18
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 17
Notre-Dame 26
Parthenon 9 - 3 = 6 not very interesting in my opinion.
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 14
Statue of Liberty 12 + 1 = 13 I will do what I can to save my homegirl.
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 32
Temple of Artemis 18
Versailles 22
 
Angkor Wat 26
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 19
Himeji Castle 18
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 17
Notre-Dame 26
Parthenon 6
Shwedagon Paya 25 - 3 = 22 Choose hard, I want to see all these wonders in the game. Sorry Shwedagon Paya, you're very impressive. But in Southeast Asia, I want to see Angkor Wat and Borobudur before.
Spiral Minaret 14 + 1 = 15 Islamic wonder is welcome, but include the Mosque along with the Minaret.
Statue of Liberty 13
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 32
Temple of Artemis 18
Versailles 22
 
Angkor Wat 26
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 19
Himeji Castle 18
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 17
Notre-Dame 26
Parthenon 6
Shwedagon Paya 22
Spiral Minaret 15
Statue of Liberty 10 (13-3) While iconic, it's the newest wonders here, along with Neuschwanstein and I prefer older ones. Also as a statue it's not that impressive - but I know it's mostly a symbolic thing why it is so famous. And it's good that it's still in the game, but I think it should leave rather sooner than later.
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 32
Temple of Artemis 18
Versailles 23 (22+1) Too important to be left out.
 
Angkor Wat 26
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 19
Himeji Castle 18
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 17
Notre-Dame 27 (26 + 1) -- We need this.
Parthenon 6
Shwedagon Paya 22
Spiral Minaret 15
Statue of Liberty 7 (10 - 3) -- It's a big copper statue, and not a particularly pretty one.
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 32
Temple of Artemis 18
Versailles 23
 
Angkor Wat 26
Borobudur (25+1)=26 Distinctive enough, and would look great in Civ6 graphics.
Great Mosque of Djenné 19
Himeji Castle 18
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 17
Notre-Dame 27
Parthenon 6
Shwedagon Paya 22
Spiral Minaret 15
Statue of Liberty (7-3)=4 I'm not sure what sort of bonus this would give in game. Immigration is not even present in the game. Credit for this statue goes to the French, not Americans...
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 32
Temple of Artemis 18
Versailles 23
 
Angkor Wat 26
Borobudur 26 + 1 = 27 (Regional representation is important, and this is by far one of the worthiest and grandest structures remaining)
Great Mosque of Djenné 19
Himeji Castle 18
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 17
Notre-Dame 27
Parthenon 6 - 3 = 3 (Let's have the marbles as an artifact/Great work of sculpture, but the temple itself is clearly inferior to the Temple of Artemis)
Shwedagon Paya 22
Spiral Minaret 15
Statue of Liberty 4
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 32
Temple of Artemis 18
Versailles 23
 
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