Returning Wonders-Elimination Thread

[Kimiimaro]

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 16
Himeji Castle 17
Machu Picchu 24-3=21 - Interresting, really. Incan city on top of the mountain. But I just don't find it as wondrous as the rest. Neuschwanstein is better mountain wonder.
Neuschwanstein 5
Notre-Dame 28
Shwedagon Paya 19
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 35+1=36 - I wanted to downvote it, but I looked at pictures of it again.
Temple of Artemis 19
Versailles 24

 

[Siptah]

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 17 (16+1) reasons given before
Himeji Castle 17
Machu Picchu 21
Neuschwanstein 5
Notre-Dame 25 (28-3) I really like this one, but we could also do with other nice cathedrals. There is already a Parisian wonder in the game and Versailles would be geographically close as well. Mont St. Michel is also a french cathedral. So why not pick another one this time? Preferably another one and this though.
Shwedagon Paya 19
Statue of Zeus 21
Taj Mahal 36
Temple of Artemis 19
Versailles 24

 

[Zaarin]

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 17
Himeji Castle 17
Machu Picchu 21
Neuschwanstein 5
Notre-Dame 26 (25 + 1) -- I disagree with Siptah's assessment; I think we need every major Gothic cathedral in the game. All of them. It's true, Notre Dame isn't the most impressive exemplar of Gothic architecture, but it's probably the most iconic. If we must limit it, I propose Notre Dame for an iconic Gothic cathedral, the Mezquite for an innovative fusion of Gothic and Islamic architecture, and Westminster Abbey or Notre Dame de Reims (just call it Reims Cathedral, for clarity) for something really stunning. Cologne Cathedral would be another welcome addition, of course.
Shwedagon Paya 19
Statue of Zeus 18 (21 - 3) -- I think I can pass on this one.
Taj Mahal 36
Temple of Artemis 19
Versailles 24

 

[WillowBrook]

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 17
Himeji Castle 17
Machu Picchu 22 (21+1) mountain wonder! And hopefully would come with the Inca
Neuschwanstein 2 (5-3) choices must be made
Notre-Dame 26
Shwedagon Paya 19
Statue of Zeus 18
Taj Mahal 36
Temple of Artemis 19
Versailles 24

 

[civviefan]

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 17-3= 14 Apologies great structure, choices have to be made, and I have 2 Olympians to save
Himeji Castle 17
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 2
Notre-Dame 26
Shwedagon Paya 19
Statue of Zeus 18+1=19Zeus rules all
Taj Mahal 36
Temple of Artemis 19
Versailles 24

 

[civviefan]

voted late last night and early today - back to back votes eek!

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 25
Great Mosque of Djenné 14
Himeji Castle 17
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 2
Notre-Dame 26
Shwedagon Paya 19-3=16 This is so difficult now, I prefer it to Borobudur but it's way ahead so no point in downvoting
Statue of Zeus 19
Taj Mahal 36
Temple of Artemis 19+1=20 On second thoughts, Artemis rules all. She's got a bow.
Versailles 24

 

[Gabriel Sergio]

Here you go
Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 25 + 1 = 26 Why not? a massive buddhist temple for its age
Great Mosque of Djenné 14
Himeji Castle 17
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 2
Notre-Dame 26
Shwedagon Paya 16
Statue of Zeus 19 - 3 = 16 had to make choice, i think i need refreshment over greco - roman things (also Zeus literally doesn't rule all)
Taj Mahal 36
Temple of Artemis 20 .
Versailles 24

 

[Lee Williams]

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 26
Great Mosque of Djenné 14
Himeji Castle 17
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 2 - 3 = ELIMINATED - least interested out of the remaining ones.
Notre-Dame 26
Shwedagon Paya 16
Statue of Zeus 16 + 1 = 17 I would like to see Zeus top 10.
Taj Mahal 36
Temple of Artemis 20 .
Versailles 24

 

[Kimiimaro]

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 26
Great Mosque of Djenné 14
Himeji Castle 17
Machu Picchu 22-3=19 - Because I don't care about this much. The other choices are more wondrous.
Notre-Dame 26
Shwedagon Paya 16
Statue of Zeus 17
Taj Mahal 36
Temple of Artemis 20+1=21 - Because Artemis is cool goddess with cool name and cool temple.
Versailles 24

 

[Xandinho]

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 26
Great Mosque of Djenné 14
Himeji Castle 17 + 1 = 18 I hope this is in the final top5, the lack of at least one Japanese wonder in the game bothers me a lot.
Machu Picchu 19
Notre-Dame 26
Shwedagon Paya 16
Statue of Zeus 17
Taj Mahal 36
Temple of Artemis 21
Versailles 24 - 3 = 21 The choices are really difficult. I want both Versailles and Notre-Dame in the game, but if I have to set priorities, Notre-Dame is a higher priority for me.

 

[Zaarin]

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 26
Great Mosque of Djenné 14
Himeji Castle 18
Machu Picchu 19
Notre-Dame 26
Shwedagon Paya 17 (16 + 1) -- I'm not well-versed enough in Southeast Asian history to tell you which is most important, but I can say that of the three SEA wonders on the list this one is the coolest looking.
Statue of Zeus 17
Taj Mahal 36
Temple of Artemis 18 (21 - 3) -- Graeco-Roman architecture, like Graeco-Roman most things, is so boring, and we don't even know what this particular temple looked like.
Versailles 21

 

[civviefan]

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 26
Great Mosque of Djenné 14-3=11 -- Priorities and all...
Himeji Castle 18
Machu Picchu 19
Notre-Dame 26
Shwedagon Paya 17
Statue of Zeus 17
Taj Mahal 36
Temple of Artemis 19 (18+1 ) -- Not knowing what it looked like shouldn't stop us from representing one of the original 7 wonders. Hanging Gardens is a case in point
Versailles 21

 

[Siptah]

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 26
Great Mosque of Djenné 11
Himeji Castle 18
Machu Picchu 16 (19-3) hasn't become a wonder in the last weeks and haven't down voted it in a while.
Notre-Dame 26
Shwedagon Paya 17
Statue of Zeus 17
Taj Mahal 36
Temple of Artemis 19
Versailles 22 (21+1) same as always

Not knowing what it looked like shouldn't stop us from representing one of the original 7 wonders. Hanging Gardens is a case in point

And look how great that worked for the hanging gardens. They were modeled after romantic paintings. If they ever existed or were a single complex, they likely were built in Assyrian times and now we have a romanticized Babylonian monstrosity, it looks nice in a way though. Firaxis obviously like romantic drawings. The Apadana is also modeled after one, besides modern reconstructions exist. At least we don't have that physically impossible colossus with the spread legs any more.
Also keep in mind with all those references to the 'original 7 wonders' that there is no such thing. In modern times, we refer to a list by Antipatros ho sidonios which wasn't universally accepted in classical times. Neither was he the first (Herodot afaik) not the last to compile such a list. Needless to say that the content differed. And of course Antipatros' list is heavily biased and there's many things he didn't know about and things he probably didn't want to include for other reasons. Even he himself changed the list at least once. For example, the walls of Babylon were on his original list but destroyed during his lifetime. So he decided to eliminate them because he saw no point in having non-existing wonders on the list. Some later copyist still included them when copying his list though. In modern times there are always replaced by the Pharos Lighthouse.

 

[Kimiimaro]

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 26
Great Mosque of Djenné 11
Himeji Castle 18
Machu Picchu 16-3=13 - While interresting, the other things on this list are more interresting than this.
Notre-Dame 26
Shwedagon Paya 17
Statue of Zeus 17
Taj Mahal 36
Temple of Artemis 19
Versailles 22+1=23 - Important and gorgeous castle built by Louis XIV. And Louis XIV is the state.

 

[Xandinho]

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 26
Great Mosque of Djenné 11
Himeji Castle 18
Machu Picchu 13 + 1 = 14 Not only famous and iconic, it's unique with its manners: mountain tile wonder and Andean wonder. Undoubtedly one of the best wonders that can represent more South America.
Notre-Dame 26
Shwedagon Paya 17 - 3 = 14 Beautiful and unique, but I think Angkor Wat and Borobudur are bigger priorities.
Statue of Zeus 17
Taj Mahal 36
Temple of Artemis 19
Versailles 23

 

[Zaarin]

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 26
Great Mosque of Djenné 11
Himeji Castle 18
Machu Picchu 14
Notre-Dame 26
Shwedagon Paya 15 (14 + 1) -- Angkor Wat and Borobudur may be more important, but they're definitely not half as cool looking.
Statue of Zeus 17
Taj Mahal 36
Temple of Artemis 16 (19 - 3) -- There are enough Greek temples in the game; I'm forced to build one every time I build a shrine. (On which note, I would willingly pay for an aesthetic DLC that makes the districts and their buildings more culturally appropriate.)
Versailles 23

 

[Xandinho]

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 26
Great Mosque of Djenné 11 - 3 = 8 I really want this marvel in the game, but choices should be made.
Himeji Castle 18 + 1 = 19 As I have said several times before, we urgently need a Japanese wonder.
Machu Picchu 14
Notre-Dame 26
Shwedagon Paya 15
Statue of Zeus 17
Taj Mahal 36
Temple of Artemis 16
Versailles 23

 

[Zaarin]

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 23 (26 - 3) -- The least interesting of the three SEA wonders on this list, IMO.
Great Mosque of Djenné 8
Himeji Castle 19
Machu Picchu 14
Notre-Dame 27 (26 + 1) -- It's beautiful, it's iconic, and it needs to be in the game.
Shwedagon Paya 15
Statue of Zeus 17
Taj Mahal 36
Temple of Artemis 16
Versailles 23

 

[Siptah]

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 9 (8+1) I don't think it will help much
Himeji Castle 19
Machu Picchu 14
Notre-Dame 27
Shwedagon Paya 15
Statue of Zeus 14 (17-3) reasons given before
Taj Mahal 36
Temple of Artemis 16
Versailles 23

 

[civviefan]

Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 8
Himeji Castle 19
Machu Picchu 14
Notre-Dame 27
Shwedagon Paya 15
Statue of Zeus 17+1=18 An upvote for one of the original 7 wonders. I disagree with above deconstruction of the authenticity of the 'original 7 wonders' on the grounds of the social construction of knowledge; if one follows that line of argument, then every bit of history is up for grabs. Civ takes a modernist approach to history (which I understand) and with it come certain truths. The original 7 wonders (+ or _ one) is one bit of history I'm willing to accept uncritically.
Taj Mahal 36
Temple of Artemis 16
Versailles 23-3=20 I can't downvote Notre Dame as Zaarin has totally sold it to me (looking into Gothic architecture, it's ace). But I'm not happy with dominance of French wonders so this beauty gets it...