RFC Europe -Art and Flags Thread
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AbsintheRed
Deity
@Merijn
Since we only renamed Temple Mount while leaving all the art, we need new button, building art and movie for Kazimierz
Do you have any ideas?
Also, what do you think about adding a wonder movie to the Triumphal Arch too?
It's sort of a national wonder (and other NWs don't have wonder movies), but I think it would be a very nice touch
EDIT: Oh, and because of my recent update, a new button for Trumphal Arch and a new building art for National Epic would be nice too.
I will also start looking for all of these, hopefully we can find everything we need soon
Since we only renamed Temple Mount while leaving all the art, we need new button, building art and movie for Kazimierz
Do you have any ideas?
Also, what do you think about adding a wonder movie to the Triumphal Arch too?
It's sort of a national wonder (and other NWs don't have wonder movies), but I think it would be a very nice touch
EDIT: Oh, and because of my recent update, a new button for Trumphal Arch and a new building art for National Epic would be nice too.
I will also start looking for all of these, hopefully we can find everything we need soon
merijn_v1
Black Belt
To be honest, I don't see the point in the Temple Mount. What will it add? I hope you have something in mind, because I adding only some culture isn't enough. Then I would rather not have it at all.
Initially, I didn't like the National Epic being readded. But now I don't mind. I will search for some art, but I want to finish some more Unique Mercs.
3Miro
Deity
If you are adding National Epic, then make sure the bonus is less than the Leaning Tower. IMO a national wonder shouldn't be as powerful as a world wonder.
Make them +100% and +50%.
Make them +100% and +50%.
merijn_v1
Black Belt
I completly forgot about the Leaning Tower. In RFC, that replaced the National Epic. I returned to my old opinion. I would rather have not the National Epic. I don't like it when 2 wonders have the same bonus. Or the bonus of the Leaning Tower should be replaced, but then we have another Wonder. And IIRC, we didn't want to add any wonders. (we already made an exception for La Lanterna)
AbsintheRed
Deity
I'm not tied to either of them, we can remove even both if you dislike them
For Temple Mount I thought it will be nice to have the jewish shrine in the game too, if we have the holy city for it.
Has the same qualities (and bonuses) as the all the other shrines - besides the gold from jewsih cities
We can even add that back too, won't be too powerful. There are only 4-5 jewish cities at the same time anyway, many nations persecute them and they spread very slowly.
3Miro was against it, but it doesn't matter that much either way IMO
Readding National Epic was just came when I organized the xml files, and found all the entries for it (unused)
And I think it's not a bad thing to have it ingame
But as I said, we can remove it, doesn't really matter to me
Back to art: Kazimierz needs all the art regardless that we are leaving Temple Mount or not
Triumphal Art's wonder movie is also separate from these two
The only additional work is the button for Triumphal Art, and the building for National Wonder. If we remove National Epic, neither of this is needed
3Miro
Deity
Triumphant Arch doesn't need a button except maybe for Civilopedia. It never gets build by the player and it never shows in the city screen.
I am fine with Jerusalem Jewish culture giving wonder, but I don't think it should be the Temple Mount as I don't think the Temple Mount existed at the time.
For National Epic, we can five it some other bonus. Do we have a national University? We can make the Epic give +25% culture bonus and make it available early on (with Classical Knowledge). This would be more like an early literature center or something like that.
Or we can just leave the National Epic out of the game.
I am fine with Jerusalem Jewish culture giving wonder, but I don't think it should be the Temple Mount as I don't think the Temple Mount existed at the time.
For National Epic, we can five it some other bonus. Do we have a national University? We can make the Epic give +25% culture bonus and make it available early on (with Classical Knowledge). This would be more like an early literature center or something like that.
Or we can just leave the National Epic out of the game.
merijn_v1
Black Belt
You want the Temple Mount as a shrine? My fault then. I thought you wanted it as another wonder. I'm fine if it is a shrine. (I consider shrines as a different category than the vanilla wonders)
BTW, good news: I fixed the art of the Conditierro. (just a simple entry caused the problem)
AbsintheRed
Deity
Ups, yeah. I didn't thought of the Leaning Tower either
Why does the Leaning Tower has this bonus anyway? Doesn't really make too much sense IMO
Rhye is Italian, right? Maybe he just wanted to put another Italian wonder in his mod
I don't want to have the same bonus in 2 separate wonders either.
+50% for National Epic and +100% for Leaning Tower could work
But only because one of them is national wonder for everyone, and the other is a world wonder
I would still have something completely different, and rather change the leaning tower's bonus to something else
AbsintheRed
Deity
Great news!
It might be wise to post in the unit requests thread too, so noone will spend time working on this
AbsintheRed
Deity
Yep, Triumphal Arch's button would be only for the civilopedia
So it's not really important, but not too hard to make either
The Temple Mount is not really the ancient temple, rather the holy site of it
It's wonder movie is about this too
I think it's fairly good to be used as a shrine
I don't think we should change the National Epic's bonuses, it's more or less fitting (and we have National Universities in the mod)
Either change the Leaning Tower's bonus to something more appropriate, or leave out the NE alltogether
merijn_v1
Black Belt
AbsintheRed
Deity
What if we give the Leaning Tower some kind of anti-engineer "bonus"? 
3Miro
Deity
What if we give the Leaning Tower some kind of anti-engineer "bonus"?
He he.
I think the Rhye's idea was to associate the Leaning Tower with the Renascence art and early science that started in Italy. Think of all the "Great People" that they had over a short period of time: Leonardo, Galieo, Michelangelo ... This is similar the RFC Greek UP for the ancient Greek Philosophers.
The Leaning Tower can be loosely tied to something else Italian like that, but while GP birth is fitting, I am not sure what other bonus would work.
merijn_v1
Black Belt
+ 10 Free Idiots. (A new kind of specialist that provides -2
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merijn_v1
Black Belt
Or, as it represents the great people of the renaissance, it could provide a free Great Person. http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10092
3Miro
Deity
I hate it when mods come with installers and I have to install the entire mod before I can check the source-code.
It has to be two lines of Python, so it should be easy.
merijn_v1
Black Belt
These are the only extra python lines (in CvEventHandler.py):
Code:
### The School of Confucius Start ###
if ( iBuildingType == gc.getInfoTypeForString("BUILDING_PALACE_CHINA") ):
pPlayer = gc.getPlayer(pCity.plot().getOwner())
iPID = pPlayer.getID()
iTID = pPlayer.getTeam()
iX = pCity.getX()
iY = pCity.getY()
b_school = gc.getInfoTypeForString("BUILDING_PALACE_CHINA")
u_prophet = gc.getInfoTypeForString( 'UNIT_PROPHET' )
u_artist = gc.getInfoTypeForString( 'UNIT_ARTIST' )
u_scientist = gc.getInfoTypeForString( 'UNIT_SCIENTIST' )
u_merchant = gc.getInfoTypeForString( 'UNIT_MERCHANT' )
u_engineer = gc.getInfoTypeForString( 'UNIT_ENGINEER' )
u_general = gc.getInfoTypeForString( 'UNIT_GREAT_GENERAL' )
u_spy = gc.getInfoTypeForString( 'UNIT_GREAT_SPY' )
self.iGreatPeopleNumberOne = self.getRandomNumber( 6 )
for i in range(1):
if self.iGreatPeopleNumberOne == 0:
pNewUnit = pPlayer.initUnit( u_prophet, iX, iY, UnitAITypes.UNITAI_PROPHET, DirectionTypes.NO_DIRECTION )
szTitle = localText.getText( "TXT_KEY_SCHOOL_PROPHET", ( ) )
CyInterface().addImmediateMessage( szTitle , None)
if self.iGreatPeopleNumberOne == 1:
pNewUnit = pPlayer.initUnit( u_artist, iX, iY, UnitAITypes.UNITAI_ARTIST, DirectionTypes.NO_DIRECTION )
szTitle = localText.getText( "TXT_KEY_SCHOOL_ARTIST", ( ) )
CyInterface().addImmediateMessage( szTitle , None)
if self.iGreatPeopleNumberOne == 2:
pNewUnit = pPlayer.initUnit( u_scientist, iX, iY, UnitAITypes.UNITAI_SCIENTIST, DirectionTypes.NO_DIRECTION )
szTitle = localText.getText( "TXT_KEY_SCHOOL_SCIENTIST", ( ) )
CyInterface().addImmediateMessage( szTitle , None)
if self.iGreatPeopleNumberOne == 3:
pNewUnit = pPlayer.initUnit( u_merchant, iX, iY, UnitAITypes.UNITAI_MERCHANT, DirectionTypes.NO_DIRECTION )
szTitle = localText.getText( "TXT_KEY_SCHOOL_MERCHANT", ( ) )
CyInterface().addImmediateMessage( szTitle , None)
if self.iGreatPeopleNumberOne == 4:
pNewUnit = pPlayer.initUnit( u_engineer, iX, iY, UnitAITypes.UNITAI_ENGINEER, DirectionTypes.NO_DIRECTION )
szTitle = localText.getText( "TXT_KEY_SCHOOL_ENGINEER", ( ) )
CyInterface().addImmediateMessage( szTitle , None)
if self.iGreatPeopleNumberOne == 5:
pNewUnit = pPlayer.initUnit( u_general, iX, iY, UnitAITypes.UNITAI_GENERAL, DirectionTypes.NO_DIRECTION )
szTitle = localText.getText( "TXT_KEY_SCHOOL_GENERAL", ( ) )
CyInterface().addImmediateMessage( szTitle , None)
if self.iGreatPeopleNumberOne == 6:
pNewUnit = pPlayer.initUnit( u_spy, iX, iY, UnitAITypes.UNITAI_MERCHANT, DirectionTypes.NO_DIRECTION )
szTitle = localText.getText( "TXT_KEY_SCHOOL_SPY", ( ) )
CyInterface().addImmediateMessage( szTitle , None)
### The School of Confucius End ###
[...]
### The School of Confucius Start ###
def getRandomNumber(self, int):
return CyGame().getSorenRandNum(int, "Gods")
### The School of Confucius End ###3Miro
Deity
Thanks, this is exactly what I needed and it is as I thought. I can add this option to any building easily (also, big laughs at the for i in range(1):, must be left-over from debugging).
AbsintheRed
Deity
I like it
A random great person would represent the renaissance "boost" as well
IMO it's at least as fitting as the original bonus of the Leaning Tower
