AbsintheRed
Deity
Btw, what if we keep the currently used city art for the missing civs, Genoa, Venice, Poland and Lithuania?
RFC Europe -Art and Flags Thread
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merijn_v1
Black Belt
I know. Look at the note.
I was more or less thinking the same way. What do you think of also adding the Industrial Styles? (The will be only aviable with the Industrial Revolution tech) Or will this be too much effort for something that rarely will be used?
I was thinking of making Genoa and Venica Greco-Roman. I will look if the current are suite Poland and Lithuania.
BTW, I will only include the new cityart, not the ethnic buildings/palaces etc.
AbsintheRed
Deity
Those could be added of course, suits the mod well after the tech tree is completed
That would make the 5th pic for all the civs for our post-renaissance era
But yeah, I'm not really sure it worths the effort. As you said not many civs complete the tech tree
And AFAIK all of these extra artstyles take up memory and slowes down a mod a bit
I don't mind that either for Venice and Genoa
We can always improve them later if you find something more suitable
Of course, I was thinking the same
Many of those "extra" buildings don't really fit in the theme of the mod IMO
AbsintheRed
Deity
Btw Merijn, you are currently PAKing the art pfk files, right?
Could you also add the Light Forest feature when you add these citysets?
I already added it to my work version and to the XML, but didn't PAKed the art for it yet
Could you also add the Light Forest feature when you add these citysets?
I already added it to my work version and to the XML, but didn't PAKed the art for it yet
merijn_v1
Black Belt
I think I won't include the Industrial style. We can always add them later on.
I won't include the art in the FPK directly. I will add them seperately like I did with the UM a while ago. When I'm finished, I will add them to the FPK. So I think it's better when you add the Light Forest yourself them yourself.
Here is how the current art looks like. I think it's suit Poland and Lithuania good enough. (I know it's France, but they currently have the same artstyle, so the Polish one looks the same)
AbsintheRed
Deity
That's very similar to some of the English artstyles
What if we just simply give the English artstlye to the Polish and Lithuanians?
What if we just simply give the English artstlye to the Polish and Lithuanians?
Wessel V1
Emperor
If possible I'd like the normal European Renaissance building style to be around. Perhaps the regular Europeans should get 2nd, 3rd, 4th and BtS' Renaissance style? Maybe the 3rd or 4th are too advanced for their eras?
Venice and Genoa should definitely get Greco-Roman city styles by the way, I don't know about Poland and Lithuania but what about Russian for Lithuania and ordinary European for Poland? I'm no expert on this matter but it seems geographically plausible.
Venice and Genoa should definitely get Greco-Roman city styles by the way, I don't know about Poland and Lithuania but what about Russian for Lithuania and ordinary European for Poland? I'm no expert on this matter but it seems geographically plausible.
Michael Vick
#1
This is just what I am thinking as well, the ancient Iberian and Norse city styles are great for the earliest age. I also totally agree with skipping the 3rd style for the Muslim civs.
Only one issue though, I am absolutely opposed to using the Renaissance and Industrial Iberian city styles. It seriously looks like old Mexico City.
Look, I've gone and found out why. The cultural city styles mod uses art from a spanish colonial city set download. http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=13149
I suggest that the Iberians use the Greco-Roman city art for their Renaissance and Industrial Ages. It's more accurate and they look very similar anyway, the ethnic palace for example is the same exact building.
For the Polish and Lithuanians here is what I think:
Lithuania: Russian ancient, Russian classical, European medieval, European renaissance, European industrial (this represents their primitive origins and eventual conversion to Christianity followed by Polish influence)
Poland: All European city styles, but instead of 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th like the other Europeans, make Poland 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, so they will look slightly behind Western Europe in the Late Middle Ages.
Merijn, the industrial city styles that I posted earlier in my first post about this topic look different from the ones you posted. Mine come from Varietas Delectat for RFC? Maybe some those could be better? For example, the industrial Iberian city style that I posted is a bit more accurate than the one in your picture.
Wessel, the industrial city styles in said earlier post look a lot more like the BTS Renaissance city styles with just a little added difference, maybe you prefer that?
merijn_v1
Black Belt
Ok. I will make the Iberian culture look like the Greco-Roman in the Renaissance.
I think I can do Lithuania like that. I'm not 100% sure though.
Mine also come from VD. (But not the RFC Version.)
After a second look, they are the same. But some of the eras are different.
AbsintheRed
Deity
I'm against having less developed Polish and Lithuanian city sets than the rest of Europe
It's the matter of technological and economic development, and that varies from game to game after all
Btw Merijn, what do you have in mind for Hungary?
It's the matter of technological and economic development, and that varies from game to game after all
Btw Merijn, what do you have in mind for Hungary?
AbsintheRed
Deity
For Poland and Lithuania I would use the 2nd russian set for Early Middle Ages
Then something generic medieval European set for High and Late Middle Ages
Not sure about Renaissance, probably something generic European again
Maybe the ones we use currently? The second pic you posted for medieval, while the third pic for renaissance
The 4th pic can go when the tech tree is completed (and if we decide to include those too)
Then something generic medieval European set for High and Late Middle Ages
Not sure about Renaissance, probably something generic European again
Maybe the ones we use currently? The second pic you posted for medieval, while the third pic for renaissance
The 4th pic can go when the tech tree is completed (and if we decide to include those too)
merijn_v1
Black Belt
I agree. The will get be in the same level of development in citystyle as the others.
I don't have any pictures of Hungary. I don't know how it will look exactly. Another problem, the download doesn't include any XML. So it will be very hard to include them. I wanted to include them the last anyway. So I will decide then. (I'm busy enough with the current ones)
AbsintheRed
Deity
Alright, and I can help you with it if you want to
Will look into the XML anyway, I think I can get the latest version from the Hungary mod
Wessel V1
Emperor
I agree. I think a hybrid form of city styles (like Russian --> European) is a good idea too.
merijn_v1
Black Belt
That would be nice. But please don't commit anything until I'm finished with the other styles. I realy don't want to merge your version and mine, if we change the XML alongside eachother.
It seems that it's not difficult to make a hybrid, so I will do that for Lithuania. (and/or Poland???)
AbsintheRed
Deity
Of course not, I will only post the files for you if I find something useful
We can then discuss everything here
3Miro
Deity
Just noticed something about Lithuania. All nations have flags with a symbol on background that matches that civ's color. Lithuania is the exception with their color being white, while their flag is red. Can we invert the colors so that they have white white flag with red symbol?
merijn_v1
Black Belt
That's certainly possible. But those flags are handled differently from the other art files. I have no idea how to change it.
EDIT: I managed to swap the colors of the flag. The downside, the bordercolors of Lithuania change to red. So the flag still don't match the bordercolors.
EDIT: I managed to swap the colors of the flag. The downside, the bordercolors of Lithuania change to red. So the flag still don't match the bordercolors.
merijn_v1
Black Belt
Should Bulgaria have the hybrid artstyle as Lithuania and Poland, or as the other Europeans?
Also, I think I have the Hungarian art included, but it's only for the middle ages. Which art should the get for the Early Middle Age (European or Russian or also the later middle ages style?) and which style they should get in the Renaissance (European or Russian)?
Also, I think I have the Hungarian art included, but it's only for the middle ages. Which art should the get for the Early Middle Age (European or Russian or also the later middle ages style?) and which style they should get in the Renaissance (European or Russian)?
AbsintheRed
Deity
That's certainly possible. But those flags are handled differently from the other art files. I have no idea how to change it.
EDIT: I managed to swap the colors of the flag. The downside, the bordercolors of Lithuania change to red. So the flag still don't match the bordercolors.
I think they use their secondary color for borders because thier primary color (or something too similar) is already used for another civs' border
Don't swap the colors on their flag, just add another unique primary color for them. That should do the trick IMO
