merijn_v1
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I make never use of the UP because I build cottages on non-resourced flatlands. So for my games it would be better if towns get a bonus.
RFC Europe playtesting feedback thread
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AbsintheRed
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Yeah, I also experienced this in almost all of my games
It would be much better if the bonus was for cottages
The UP's name is cottage economy after all...
AbsintheRed
Deity
Yeah, ezzlar is right on templars
But there is something else I hate about the independents:
When you declare war on them, that counts in the diplomatic relations with the major civs too
The usual "you declared war on our friend"
And many civs will have friendly relations towards most independents, because after a few turns
there is auto peace, and the independent civs won't hurt major civs at all...
This is especially annoying since the independent teams are quite random on the map, so 2 cities of the same team can be very far away
In my latest game I had -11 diplo with England because "you declared war on our friend", and I don't declared war on even one major player in that game!!!
But there is something else I hate about the independents:
When you declare war on them, that counts in the diplomatic relations with the major civs too
The usual "you declared war on our friend"
And many civs will have friendly relations towards most independents, because after a few turns
there is auto peace, and the independent civs won't hurt major civs at all...
This is especially annoying since the independent teams are quite random on the map, so 2 cities of the same team can be very far away
In my latest game I had -11 diplo with England because "you declared war on our friend", and I don't declared war on even one major player in that game!!!
ezzlar
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AI Byzantine is incredible fast in tech with Banking in 900AD+.
France is powerful because of the early Catholic start which gives the player the opportunity to beeline techs, shoot for corporations, city places and wonders. They should be given some obstacle to deal with! Early barbarians arent enough because of the free wins.
Edit: Papal states are often in head with techs. Feels unrealistic!
France is powerful because of the early Catholic start which gives the player the opportunity to beeline techs, shoot for corporations, city places and wonders. They should be given some obstacle to deal with! Early barbarians arent enough because of the free wins.
Edit: Papal states are often in head with techs. Feels unrealistic!
AbsintheRed
Deity
Another thing that signs manoralism is right now overpowered
I can't think of anything else causing it, since there were no other econimic changes since beta 4
Have you guys added a "Plague of Justinian" and a re-run to that as well? That would severaly weaken the country, if balancing it is too hard. Currently though, I still think Bulgaria is too expansive, when it really should stop growing after a while.
3Miro
Deity
Plague of Justinian is there. Also, which version of RFCE are you playing, there were some issues with Bulgarian AI getting Constantinople and becoming a super-power, but that is fixed for Beta 5.
I am playing a game on Beta 4 (haven't DL 5 yet and so not sure if this is fixed in 5).
My bug I have seen is that Sweden AI player is getting Formation promotions for their Carracks. I know Formation is their Unique ability, but shouldn't this be restricted to land-based units?
My bug I have seen is that Sweden AI player is getting Formation promotions for their Carracks. I know Formation is their Unique ability, but shouldn't this be restricted to land-based units?
PatCat90 I got the same with Genoa on Beta 4.
I had completed the other two objectives but even with the two corporations and far more banks than required for the goal it did not trigger.
I am wondering if the goal trigger is vanilla banks and the cities actually contain the UB Venetian Bank?
I had completed the other two objectives but even with the two corporations and far more banks than required for the goal it did not trigger.
I am wondering if the goal trigger is vanilla banks and the cities actually contain the UB Venetian Bank?
This was on Beta 5. So the bug persists.
Other feedback - is it possible to get the leader music more aligned with the RFCEurope leaders?
I realise getting some done will require finding and getting suitable music into the right format.
There are some though that could be done easily as they are already in Civ4 but different base leaders have been used for the Mod.
As an Anglophile it is getting really annoying hearing La Marseilles every time the English leader pope up.
I realise getting some done will require finding and getting suitable music into the right format.
There are some though that could be done easily as they are already in Civ4 but different base leaders have been used for the Mod.
As an Anglophile it is getting really annoying hearing La Marseilles every time the English leader pope up.
AOS9001
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I second this. Bulgaria with Persian music, and the Holy Roman Empire with Celtic music just don't work. I'm sure with some searching, we could find apt replacements. It's already been done for Austria, Sweden, Poland, Venice, and Hungary.
yogiebere
Civilization City Planner
Alright I know some of you have been complaining about the strength of the Ottoman empire; but I just tried them on monarch - I'm having serious issues with stability
I settled throughout Turkey, Holy lands, and through Egypt as farthest west. Then I started conquering North, and I couldn't get any farther than a few Bulgarian cities in before I had serious stability issues. I had castles, courthouses, and town watches in almost every city and I had stable everything else, I just had MASSIVE negatives on expansion. Is there a way to balance this? Maybe turn their UB into a stability booster?
I settled throughout Turkey, Holy lands, and through Egypt as farthest west. Then I started conquering North, and I couldn't get any farther than a few Bulgarian cities in before I had serious stability issues. I had castles, courthouses, and town watches in almost every city and I had stable everything else, I just had MASSIVE negatives on expansion. Is there a way to balance this? Maybe turn their UB into a stability booster?
Opera
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Just made a dutch start with Beta 5 to see what would the world look like.
The Ottomans control all of Anatolia, all of Levant except Jerusalem (controlled by the Germans), pushed as far as Thessaloniki in Greece and just captured Alexandrie in Egypt. Nice to see such a pretty impressive Ottoman Empire!
Bulgaria is weak, as is most of the east.
Spain booted Cordoba and controls pretty much all of its current territory and Napoli and Firenze -- Portugal is useless as usual (doesn't even settle islands).
Nothing interesting to report on France, Germany and England.
Genoa has a city near Moscow...
IMO the "weak" point of the mod is the completely uninteresting south of the map, ie North Africa. There's nothing going on there except in Morocco for Spain/Portugal/Cordoba and in Egypt for the Arabs and the Turks. I don't know if there's something to be done but it just seems no one (even the AI) cares about it.
The Ottomans control all of Anatolia, all of Levant except Jerusalem (controlled by the Germans), pushed as far as Thessaloniki in Greece and just captured Alexandrie in Egypt. Nice to see such a pretty impressive Ottoman Empire!
Bulgaria is weak, as is most of the east.
Spain booted Cordoba and controls pretty much all of its current territory and Napoli and Firenze -- Portugal is useless as usual (doesn't even settle islands).
Nothing interesting to report on France, Germany and England.
Genoa has a city near Moscow...
IMO the "weak" point of the mod is the completely uninteresting south of the map, ie North Africa. There's nothing going on there except in Morocco for Spain/Portugal/Cordoba and in Egypt for the Arabs and the Turks. I don't know if there's something to be done but it just seems no one (even the AI) cares about it.
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