RFC Europe: Small bugs/fixes

[sedna17]

Okay, I understand what you mean. I think only the Civic Strategy texts are a high priority because they show in those pop-ups. As you say, the Civilopedia just omits that section if there isn't a strategy defined for a unit/building -- no harm done.

Since these civic strategy texts are about a sentence long this shouldn't be a problem. Fill in what you want to, and I'll make sure all the civics have something before the next alpha.

 

[blizzrd]

Olive resource is not appearing with the correct picture in the City Screen (currently shows as Relic)

 

[jessiecat]

Reporting a couple of bugs I found while playing as Hungary. I got the first UHV easy enough by capturing a few cities from Venice and Bulgaria. But when I got to 1526 and got the 2nd. UHV, having not lost any cities to the Ottomans (or anybody else), no triumphal arch or golden age. Meanwhile, I've gifted away nearly all the captured cities, have open borders with nearly everybody, there's no wars and I have one vassal. So why is my foriegn stability so bad? If I play on even my core cities start declaring independence. What's going on??? See screenshots below and saved game for 1524.

 

[Power_of_Beer]

Trading away cities influences the foreign category negatively, at least that's how it is in RFC.

 

[sedna17]

Trading away cities influences the foreign category negatively, at least that's how it is in RFC.

Correct.

As for Hungary, jessiecat, the 2nd UHV is allow no Turkish cities in "Europe". I must have missed this change, 'cause I never did a UHV map displaying the area in question. But that's not the problem here. It's probably just a conts.py building-numbering bug. I'll sort it out.

 

[sedna17]

Olive resource is not appearing with the correct picture in the City Screen (currently shows as Relic)

Thanks for that report. When we put in the olives we didn't modify the gamefonts file as well.

 

[fdgsgds]

Some leaders are dying!

I think we were going to change Sweden's leader, though. Earlier in this post I put a screenshot of Harald Hardrada dying. Also, will Olives give food? They don't right now. All they give is +1 Happiness and +3 Commerce...

P.S. I always have economy problems as England. Any tips? Other than founding corporations.

 

[jessiecat]

Some leaders are dying!

I think we were going to change Sweden's leader, though. Earlier in this post I put a screenshot of Harald Hardrada dying. Also, will Olives give food? They don't right now. All they give is +1 Happiness and +3 Commerce...

P.S. I always have economy problems as England. Any tips? Other than founding corporations.

The Great Generals list needs revising. I'll try to fix it. OK?

 

[Panopticon]

Some leaders are dying!

I think we were going to change Sweden's leader, though. Earlier in this post I put a screenshot of Harald Hardrada dying. Also, will Olives give food? They don't right now. All they give is +1 Happiness and +3 Commerce...

P.S. I always have economy problems as England. Any tips? Other than founding corporations.

Put cottages all around Bristol and maybe York. Assuming you're playing for the UHV, you need a Welsh city; Chester is a good site, at the extreme North-East of Wales, that you can put good improvements around. Also, cottage the good sites in France that you conquer. For instance, Paris has more land tiles to work with than London.

 

[fdgsgds]

The Great Generals list needs revising. I'll try to fix it. OK?

Of course, though, it doensn't interfere with gameplay.

 

[blizzrd]

The Norse UHV condition to raze 10 cities seems to either:

Trigger on 11 cities; or
Trigger on 10 cities where the player has to choose to raze the city (i.e. not including auto-raze).

I auto-razed a size 1 city (right at the start, the independent city near modern Oslo) as one of the first 10 cities to be razed. But until I razed an 11th city, I didn't get the UHV condition.

 

[blizzrd]

Not sure if this is specifcally an RFCE bug, because I've seen it in regular RFC plenty of times too:

Spoiler :

In the last 24 hours, it has happened to me each time with both the Norse and now Venice. I had to reload an autosave to get the correct start date.

 

[fdgsgds]

I wanted to post these funny screenshots.

In the first one, the Pope now rules from Vienna! He thought he should switch things up a little.

In this second one, Simone Boccenegra of Genoa decides to use his money to buy his own crusade.

Edit: actually, I didn't see that Louis was chosen. As Venice, I hoarded gold to try to take over the crusade, but even when I had 2000 gold, Spain took it over.

 

[blizzrd]

In this second one, Simone Boccenegra of Genoa decides to use his money to buy his own crusade.

The second one isn't exactly unusual, it happened to me when I was playing Burgundy on every single crusade once Genoa had spawned. I had to raze Genoa and eliminate Simone Boccenegra so that I could control a crusade for myself and win the Burgundy UHV condition.

 

[Jusos2108]

Correct.

As for Hungary, jessiecat, the 2nd UHV is allow no Turkish cities in "Europe". I must have missed this change, 'cause I never did a UHV map displaying the area in question. But that's not the problem here. It's probably just a conts.py building-numbering bug. I'll sort it out.

Actually, I had the exact same problem with foreign stability as Jessiecat and I didn't trade my cities away. I was also playing with Hungary (monarch) and I felt that it was so weird that I wrote some facts up about my foreign relations: No wars, 13 resources traded, 11 OB-agreements. Attitudes: 9 civs were pleased towards me, 3 cautious and 3 annoyed. But I still had one star foreign stability?!

Afterwards, I was playing with Venice and my foreign stability was -21, eventhough I had one vassal, 12 OB-agreements, 4 civs were friendly towards me, 3 pleased, 6 cautious and 3 annoyed. In my Venice game there was also a moment in 1170 when 8 out of 13 known civs were unstable/collapsing and the rest 5 were shaky, No one was solid. That was also a bit odd, especially so early in the game.

I have played RFC quite many times and this has never happened to me. Usually, as everybody knows, the stability problems are due to Expansion. Sorry for the long post but I am just going lay everything out.

P.S. Playing with Hungary I got 2/3 UHVs but no triumphal arch or golden age (same as Jessiecat)
P.P.S Playing with Venice something weird had happened in Greece before I explored it 850ish, since Athens and Hadrianopolis(or whatever) were in ruins and Thessalonica was independent. Constantinople was standing and never conquered (had a tagmata in it). I guess it possible that barbs razed most of Greece and captured Thessalonica, which then revolted into independent city, but should there be so strong barbs around Greece between 500-800?!? Or other possibility that the Byzantine UP didn't function properly...

 

[Jusos2108]

Here are the screenshots of the things I mentioned above. They are not from the exact years, because I took them from autosaves, so all the facts aren't correct. For example, stability of AI civs, Kievan became stable in 1173 and I met Cordoba which was stable.

 

[jessiecat]

Looks like Junos 2108 had the same problems with Hungary as I did. I don't think that's been fixed yet.
And BTW the new UHV for England isn't working now as you can see from this screenshot and the saved game for 1452. I obviously have Normandy, Paris and Calais. But it doesn't seem to count.

 

[BurnEmDown]

I thought you needed Brittany as well?

 

[jessiecat]

I thought you needed Brittany as well?

Just 1 city in N. France AFAIK. In fact, it looks like the UHV map hasn't been changed yet, anyway.

 

[sedna17]

Just 1 city in N. France AFAIK. In fact, it looks like the UHV map hasn't been changed yet, anyway.

That image you post clearly shows that you need at least four different cities in France -- one in Normandy, one in Ile-de-France, one in Brittany and one in Aquitaine.


@ Jusos2108
I am investigating the Hungary UHV problem.

Foreign instability is also caused by unstable neighbors. That's probably what's happening here (i.e. you have many unstable neighbors). In theory this could be a runaway thing. I dunno, stability still isn't the finely honed experience it should be.