Richard Sherman - Thug?

Formaldehyde said:
Are you really so unfamiliar with the notion of dog whistles and code words despite them being discussed at length in this forum?
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I get the concept of "code words" but I was not aware that thug had morphed into one. And what the heck is this about dog whistles?? Sincere question, because if there is some racist meaning with dog whistle, that is yet another thing I am unfamiliar with.
 
I take it your search engine isn't working?

Dog whistle politics

It is essentially the same as "code words", only it is limited to politics instead of having a more general meaning.
 
No. It has to do with the notion that supposedly only some can hear and understand the real message.

It is an analogy to dog whistles, which are built in such a way that their high-frequency whistle is heard by dogs, but is inaudible to humans.
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You mean this post?

downtown said:
If you don't see how "thug" has become a code word for the N word, you aren't paying attention to sports or sports media.
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Cause it still sounds as wrong as before, regardless of any term being potentially used as a metaphor.

"Gangsta", on the other hand... is somewhat promoted by black rappers for their own self. "Thug" is not associated with race, unless entire cities' worth of English football (that's soccer, oldsport) fans are black.
 
What does England possibly have to do with US dog whistles and code words?

The Word "Thug" Was Uttered 625 Times On TV On Monday. That's A Lot.

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The word "thug" has been used so many times by the same sort of people about the same sort of thing that it's no longer even accurate to call it code—it's really more of a shorthand. It means a black guy who makes white folks a little more uncomfortable than they prefer. On Sunday night, Richard Sherman made a lot of people uncomfortable. Then on Monday, people said thug on TV more often than on any other day in the past three years.

The numbers here come from iQ Media1, and they're based on every closed caption that ran in every market in the country over the past three years. As you can see above, Monday was more "thug"-heavy than any day in the past few years. iQ Media says 625 "thug"s across all markets, while competing service TVEyes says 524 so far today, but just 269 yesterday. Both have today and yesterday as massive spikes. ESPN, to its credit, appears to be on the hook for just two "thugs" all of yesterday. CBS was the overall leader by iQ's count, but that number is slightly inflated because of a mention on the national broadcast of the creatively bereft ratings graveyard Intelligence, which went out to a bunch of local affiliates.
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You seem to think that many racist issues are "wrong".
 
Kyriakos said:
You mean this post?



Cause it still sounds as wrong as before, regardless of any term being potentially used as a metaphor.

"Gangsta", on the other hand... is somewhat promoted by black rappers for their own self. "Thug" is not associated with race, unless entire cities' worth of English football (that's soccer, oldsport) fans are black.
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Yes that post. Since it "sounds wrong" to you, but it isn't, maybe you can use this as an opportunity to increase your understanding of the world.
 
Hygro said:
Yes that post. Since it "sounds wrong" to you, but it isn't, maybe you can use this as an opportunity to increase your understanding of the world.
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Nothing to understand about some puppets running around and attacking each other, cause someone told them that they are supposed to hate each other forever.

Only a bit to feel sad.
 
Kyriakos said:
Nothing to understand about some puppets running around and attacking each other, cause someone told them that they are supposed to hate each other forever.

Only a bit to feel sad.
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You'd do great on CNN.
 
classical hero - Issues all over the world when it comes to race. Maybe we talk about it too much, but other parts of the country still have fans calling African American atheletes "apes" and throwing bananas at them.
 
Cheezy the Wiz said:
Shocker: words have different meanings in different cultures. This took place in the United States, so that's the one we're concerned with here.
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And yet here I am, an American, who has not had a clue about it meaning anything of the sort. No, I do not pay any attention to any sports media at all beyond watching games. Does that mean I am not an American? When I hear thug, to be honest the first thing that pops into my mind is Tony Soprano, not a Seattle Seahawks player.

Honestly, I feel like I should still be able to use thug as it has always been used and screw anyone who thinks I mean anything else. If they want to ask for clarification, sure, no problemo, but I am not going to be denied the use of a perfectly apt word if I want to call a thug a thug.
 
bhsup said:
And yet here I am, an American, who has not had a clue about it meaning anything of the sort. No, I do not pay any attention to any sports media at all beyond watching games. Does that mean I am not an American? When I hear thug, to be honest the first thing that pops into my mind is Tony Soprano, not a Seattle Seahawks player.

Honestly, I feel like I should still be able to use thug as it has always been used and screw anyone who thinks I mean anything else. If they want to ask for clarification, sure, no problemo, but I am not going to be denied the use of a perfectly apt word if I want to call a thug a thug.
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I don't think anybody is arguing that a violent criminal shouldn't be called a "thug" if you wish to do so. But using the term to refer to those who are not even convicted of any crime is an entirely different matter.
 
bhsup said:
And yet here I am, an American, who has not had a clue about it meaning anything of the sort. No, I do not pay any attention to any sports media at all beyond watching games. Does that mean I am not an American? When I hear thug, to be honest the first thing that pops into my mind is Tony Soprano, not a Seattle Seahawks player.

Honestly, I feel like I should still be able to use thug as it has always been used and screw anyone who thinks I mean anything else. If they want to ask for clarification, sure, no problemo, but I am not going to be denied the use of a perfectly apt word if I want to call a thug a thug.
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I think this guy would agree with you, been meaning to post this vid for a while. You might enjoy this.

Spoiler some language I guess :


edit: side beef he uses the word "reactionary" where I wouldn't. oh well.
 
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