Richard Sherman - Thug?

At least we agree it is funny and cannot be taken seriously.
 
Just imagine if he were black.
 
He'd... still be a really awful person? Though I guess his racism wouldn't have been as much of an issue in the media. Anti-white racial slurs don't really have the same weight to them*. It's not even the first thing you think of if someone says "the c-word".

He'd still be a douche that needs to be punched in the gut repeatedly though.

*I'm assuming Martin is white in this hypothetical if that wasn't obvious
 
I smell a conspiracy going on in all of this. :shifty:

I'm 99% sure this commerical played during the game on Sunday.

Link to video.

A reporter asks Sherman if he is a thug at the end of this commercial? hmm



And then a few hours later in the real life football game, he has the game winning deflection to keep the 49's from scoring a touchdown at the end and winning by one point.

And then he has the squeeky high ultra-emotional outburst with a small female interviewer to make everyone uncomfortable.


Link to video.


I wonder if that "outburst" would have happened at the end regardless of a game winning play at the end.

Maybe someone is fishing for some attention and name recognition? Not like cornerbacks ever get famous naturally.

Nice guy with a huge GPA ain't gonna sell jerseys. Eminem learned that a long time ago with rap.
 
I'm 99% sure this commerical played during the game on Sunday.

You'd be incorrect. The Beats commercial that played during the NFC Championship game involved Kaepernick marching through a gauntlet of Seahawks fans throwing various foodstuffs at him.

Maybe someone is fishing for some attention and name recognition. Not like cornerbacks ever get famous naturally.

Sherman is absolutely fishing for attention but that's not what he's doing here. This was an emotional outburst in response to making a play that will be remembered for the rest of his career and then getting smacked in the face by Crabtree. Some of his prior antics, particularly the "u mad bro?" tweet after he made Brady look like a chump earlier in the season, was definitely him looking to be newsworthy. I don't think that's a bad thing though. Sherman's the best player on the best defense in the NFL since at least the 2000 Ravens, the dude deserves some name recognition.
 
Sherman's all right, mostly an athlete doing athlete things, I don't see much of a problem with it and I think that the overwhelming majority of people who are getting hyped up about Sherman are either racist or they are operating on racist assumptions.

I do have a problem with Pete Carroll because he's a weasel and a truther but that is an entirely separate matter
You'd be incorrect. The Beats commercial that played during the NFC Championship game involved Kaepernick marching through a gauntlet of Seahawks fans throwing various foodstuffs at him.
I'm certain the Sherman Beats commercial aired at some point that day, but it might've been during the AFC Championship, don't remember.
 
A cornerback versus a wide receiver is a one on one competition in the middle of a team sport. It's one of the most individualist positions and matchups there are in the game. A quarterback needs the line to block, the running back to be able to occasionally run to keep the defense honest, the wide receivers to run the patterns and to catch the ball. A great quarterback needs a great team and rightly so when interviewed a quarterback always is humble and says the team did all the work. A cornerback is all alone man to man covering a receiver who knows where and when the ball is going to be thrown. If he touches the receiver he gets a penalty that will change the course of the game, if he stops the receiver 99 times the one time he doesn't will change the course of the game. The fact that right after the biggest win of his career where the final play was him outplaying the receiver in a man to man matchup had him talking a little smack is understandable and was refreshingly honest.

Not a thug in any way shape or form, just a hell of an athlete making an awesome play and being jacked about the win.
 
Mediocre handegg player decides to play the heel for extra publicity...

Everyone loses the contents of their colons, and some black chick posts 20 (twenty!) articles about it on my Facebook newsfeed, basically all of them playing the race card. Justified or not, I can't really get upset because some people are being mean to a random handegg player while he rakes in publicity, and soon the accompanying money.
 
So now "thug" has racist connotations? Can someone please make a website that keeps track of these things? Just learned here on CFC the other day that Eskimo is considered racist and I have to quit using it, and now I have to do the same with thug. Any others I should be aware of?
 
Sherman had what, a 3.8 GPA from STANFORD? Not a thug.

Yo real talk a high GPA from Stanford is not impressive. It's like Harvard, they hand out A's just for showing up. This is so folks see that GPA on a resume and go "a 3.8... from STANFORD? Double impressive. Hired." and then as that person gets the gig, upping the school's prestige. Once they make their money, they turn around and donate more back to the school.

Sherman was apparently second in his class in high school and scored 1400 (back when it was out of 1600) on the SAT though, so there's your real evidence of his scholarship.


So now "thug" has racist connotations?
Yep. You can blame the racists for ruining it for everyone.
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/22/richard-sherman-thug-n-word-press-conference_n_4646871.html

For those who aint familiar with American football, Sherman is a defensive back for Seattle covering receivers trying to catch passes from the quarterback. Seattle won and Ricard Sherman went on TV to insult one of the receivers he covered.

I saw what he did and my reaction was he's Bush league, meaning poor sportsman. Cant even win with grace, he's gotta trash talk a member of the losing team. But some people are calling him a thug and he's deftly playing the race card.

He's got a point though, slimy no-class trash talkers aint thugs, not even in the same ballpark.
If he did that and was "white", would white commentators call him a thug? Does his skin color create the difference? And does this mean Sherman just called black folk thugs?

Cool, now i bothered to watch the video of his articulate response about how insanely better he is than 'Crabtree' (i assume another player in that league and game).

Sounds like an idiot. Non-story, though. As for "thug", you are not going to help anyone by making a negative term into a byword for black people or other races. You won't help this way, so i have to assume it is more smoke and mirrors and another victim in the cogs of the racial game in the Nu-USA.
 
Maybe some people use the word as code, but not me. If he were white and made the same comment, I would look down on him just as much, and just as likely call him a thug.
 
Thug, a common criminal, who treats others violently and roughly, often for hire

Is this guy a common criminal, who treats others violently and roughly?

The first part seems false, the second part seems true.. but he does it within the confines of an organized professional sport, so I don't think that counts. And he isn't a criminal for hire either (right?), so the third part fails.

So, not a thug. But if sports personalities are really using the word as a substitute for "the n word", then that's another issue entirely and requires another angle of discussion IMO.
 
^Thug, like other words, is often used metaphorically.
Which is really all you need to understand why downtown's post is the crux of this conversation.
 
So now "thug" has racist connotations?
Are you really so unfamiliar with the notion of dog whistles and code words despite them being discussed at length in this forum?

Yep. You can blame the racists for ruining it for everyone.
Nope. You have that backwards. We are supposedly the real racists for merely discussing this matter.
 
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