[R&F] Rise and Fall Features Thread

[Eagle Pursuit]

At about 3:30 in this video he says Governors can build City Parks and Fisheries.

https://twitter.com/antonstrenger/status/935621956883402752

Here Anton says that the two new improvements are governor improvements.

So the only two new improvements (excluding uniques) are the City Park and the Fishery. I don't know what the Satellite dishes are, but they aren't an improvement.

known governors
Raina the Financier - purchase districts with gold
Liyang the Surveyor - can build fisheries and city parks
Amani the Diplomat - increases a city's loyalty and increases disloyalty in other civs' cities, can increase envoy effects in a city-state
... the Cardinal
... the Castellan - increases city defense

 

[zephyrtr]

Yup, once I got home and looked on my higher-def screen (instead of zooming on my phone) totally definitely some kind of other building; NOT a satellite dish. Sorry for the false ID.

 

[bite]

At about 3:30 in this video he says Governors can build City Parks and Fisheries.

https://twitter.com/antonstrenger/status/935621956883402752

Here Anton says that the two new improvements are governor improvements.

So the only two new improvements (excluding uniques) are the City Park and the Fishery. I don't know what the Satellite dishes are, but they aren't an improvement.

known governors
Raina the Financier - purchase districts with gold
Liyang the Surveyor - can build fisheries and city parks
Amani the Diplomat - increases a city's loyalty and increases disloyalty in other civs' cities, can increase envoy effects in a city-state
... the Cardinal
... the Castellan - increases city defense

Thanks added

 

[zephyrtr]

Definitely that temple is Artemis. Consider this side-by-side of the screenshot and the wonder painting from Civ 5. Note the horses flanking the main stair, also the cypress trees and the twin side stairs.

Artemis

• zephyrtr
• Nov 28, 2017

No idea yet what that tree with white specks is or this blue-roofed seaside castle with the orange trees. There can't be that many structures that fit that description? But I'm not seeing anything in google search yet.

 

[Peserwin]

The Greek temple is Statue of Zeus and not Artemis or Parthenon. It's because of the open roof. Greek temples were closed on top, but the statue of Zeus supposedly was too big. Furthermore, the Statue of Zeus is with us from civ2 and I am happy it's here again.

Edit: now ive seen the statues of horsemen in front of Artemis ^ I'm in doubt...

 

[usadefcon1]

The trailer seems to show some of the new governors we can expect. At 0:24 Builder, 0:35 Entertainer/Gladiator, 0:56 Castellan, 1:09 Military Attacker, 1:53 Explorer, 2:14 Surveyor?, 2:23 Spy/Code Breaker, 2:36 Freedom Fighter, 2:54 Diplomat.

 

[BenZL43]

The Greek temple is Statue of Zeus and not Artemis or Parthenon. It's because of the open roof. Greek temples were closed on top, but the statue of Zeus supposedly was too big. Furthermore, the Statue of Zeus is with us from civ2 and I am happy it's here again.

Edit: now ive seen the statues of horsemen in front of Artemis ^ I'm in doubt...

Here's some resources to convince you.
#1 is a museum model.
#2 is from the Miniaturk theme park in Turkey.
#3 is a sketch/drawing that I doubt we'd ever found the author.

Spoiler sources. warning, big images :

TL;DR That temple to Zeus is not the only temple traditionally depicted with an open roof.




EDIT: more resources!

Superficially, the Artemision would have resembled the Parthenon. Uniquely, its roof was open above the cella, or inner sanctum, where the statue of Artemis was housed. This detail would only be noticed by someone inside the cella, however, or on the roof.

Read more here: http://michaeltfassbender.com/nonfi...-history-of-the-temple-of-artemis-at-ephesus/

 

[LacsiraxAriscal]

I spy something interesting if you squint at the poster.

Compare with:

This is Mount Nemrut in Cappadocia. Seems a pretty close match if you ask me.

 

[GonzaHerMeg]

LThird could be whatever that white stuff is here at far left, next to the commerce district? Though those buildings (esp that cross-looking one) typically only show up in a district, so that could be not an improved resource but our 2nd mystery district!

That's a industrial complex with a workshop.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

The trailer seems to show some of the new governors we can expect. At 0:24 Builder, 0:35 Entertainer/Gladiator, 0:56 Castellan, 1:09 Military Attacker, 1:53 Explorer, 2:14 Surveyor?, 2:23 Spy/Code Breaker, 2:36 Freedom Fighter, 2:54 Diplomat.

Is this speculation or do you have a Firaxis source for this idea?

 

[Ricard.Bossle]

The mountain on the botton left corner of the Announcement Poster seems to be Sri Pada

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam's_Peak

 

[usadefcon1]

Is this speculation or do you have a Firaxis source for this idea?

No evidence for the exact names, but here Anton says "As for the Governors themselves, they have unique personalities – even before you start choosing which ones to upgrade. Some thrive in taking an already established city to the next level, building Wonders and powering up trade routes. Others are more suited to new cities that are constructing their first districts and claiming their first bits of land. One can be a savior during a city siege, and can make or break a city’s defense against a powerful attacking army. Though normally Governors can only work in your own cities, there is one that can be assigned to city-states, affecting the Envoys you have there. That said, none of the Governors are easily distilled into a single function."

So they seem to fit the trailer.

 

[j0nas]

The natural wonder in the in game picture I taught was Igiazu but that's 'only' a waterfall, this look more like Roraima
http://www.amusingplanet.com/2013/05/tabletop-mountains-or-tepuis-of.html

Spoiler :

The poster picture also reveal the stone arch in Utah Arches park.

EDIT; I just saw that these are on the list, I only saw Red forest. Sorry.

 

[ferretbacon]

For what it's worth, Ed Beach confirms in this tweet (https://twitter.com/EdBeach23/status/935527581390200832) that there are going to be 8 new civs with 8 leaders and 1 new leader for an existing civ.

 

[DWilson]

 

[Jazersances]

3 things that come to my mind after reading all the progress and contributions made here, i dont know if you realized so sorry if im repeating something.
- The turkish region Capadoccia appears very clearly in the poster, so we can assume that Turkey/Ottoman empire will be a new civ, also this is more logical if we thing that the new temple is the Artemis temple, with is in the turkish city of Efesus.
-We can appreciate that they have changed the design of the monument, wich in my opinion is quite good.
-They have also changed the design for some palaces, in the image appears the new one for russian civ (we knew is russia becuse in the religious district the have the Lavra)

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

3 things that come to my mind after reading all the progress and contributions made here, i dont know if you realized so sorry if im repeating something.
- The turkish region Capadoccia appears very clearly in the poster, so we can assume that Turkey/Ottoman empire will be a new civ, also this is more logical if we thing that the new temple is the Artemis temple, with is in the turkish city of Efesus.
-We can appreciate that they have changed the design of the monument, wich in my opinion is quite good.
-They have also changed the design for some palaces, in the image appears the new one for russian civ (we knew is russia becuse in the religious district the have the Lavra)
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Capaddocia might be a natural wonder too. But also, did you notice the 3 Turkish minarets scattered around.

 

[Jazersances]

Capaddocia might be a natural wonder too. But also, did you notice the 3 Turkish minarets scattered around.

Yeah i saw the minarets, in capadoccia there are houses and a lot of mosque and people lives there, i imagine it would be a natural wonder too and maybe they just put the houses and the minarets as decoration. There is also people who said it might be the mount Nemrut, but thats not in capadoccia actually they are two different things quite far from eachother

 

[PYITE]

Sounds likely that it will be one of the new civs that gets 2 leaders rather than a vanilla civ getting a second.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Sounds likely that it will be one of the new civs that gets 2 leaders rather than a vanilla civ getting a second.

No Ed Beach stated explicitly that an old civ is getting the second leader.

https://twitter.com/EdBeach23/status/935527581390200832