Role Play Challenge, TNG: Captain Jean-Luc Picard, The Prime Directive
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The Third Superpower
Not that you would have a lot of Slaves with so little food. I foresee the Japanese becoming a problem very quickly, unless they push into China primarily.
No slavery will make it extremlly hard. In my shadowing of the game I used it constantly until late 1700. Since most citys will have 0-3 hammers max. But ofc it does make sense RP wise.
Remember with TGLH and later curnecy new citys will pay for themself. You will also meet europe/africa quite early in the game with will give some extremlly nice trade routs.
Remember with TGLH and later curnecy new citys will pay for themself. You will also meet europe/africa quite early in the game with will give some extremlly nice trade routs.
huerfanista
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I'd move the Gems/iron/fish area to the top of the list. It's the only site with any real food, has great commerce and decent production. It will grow quickly and become a prime worker/settler/unit pump. Everything else will be very slow growing. I'd also expand into indonesia quickly while teching IW to make those jungles workable. You can get some very decent cities going there, even before calendar.
I think maybe with two cities- Java and the Philipines -you could effectively block sea access to the rest of polynesia until Astro. There may be an overland gap on Borneo, but I don't think you have to worry about anyone portaging a galley through the jungle. Even with poor land, those two cities can work sea tiles and pay for themselves with the GLH while providing some breathing room. Can someone dot map?
madscientist
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Well, it was actually built in world history but really where was it actually built? It may have been built in Australia for all the enterprise crew know, after all history is a bit sketchy for this time period! And since the Ptomelic Greek/Egyptians are not around, why not allow the Aborygine's of Australia to build such a majestic wonder!
Building an advanced civilization in Austrailia and Indonesia will also change the worlds history.
Not always. I've seen Toku get a settler to the philippines as early as 1500B.C. He usually follows one of three routes, turtle on the island for the entire game and be a nonfactor, rush to settle a mainland city in southern China and/or Korea, which cripples China's expansion, or he sends settlers into the Indies early. Ideally he'll drop cities on the mainland to screw over China but there's always the possibility that if you don't move for the good Northern islands ASAP that you will need to set phasers to kill.
But usually Asoka is the first one sending settlers into the Indies, and he only does so after he's run out of room in India/Indochina/Tibet. China likes to settle New Guinea for the gold.
dalamb
Deity
I agree -- and I think you've made things far too difficult for yourself, mad: you should have started near those fish, with early access to Indonesia. Adding "no slavery" as well is going to make things very, very difficult.
madscientist
RPC Supergenius
I played the next segment and will post it tomorrow. Techpath went pottery/writing/IW/MC and we have a decision to make regarding trades or not. Expansion is slow but steady.
Here is the save though and I am adding last segment's save to the previous segment.
Here is the save though and I am adding last segment's save to the previous segment.
The AIs seem to settle towards opponents, so one reason Oz and indonesia usually remain unsettled for a while is probably because nobody is approaching Toku/Qin/Asoka from that direction and they don't see any hurry. I wouldn't be surprised if they are a bit more proactive this game, what with Oz having a player start on it and all.
One thing I noticed in my game is that no one has actully settled the parts of Austraila that I havent settled and its still 1800 ad. Now the places left arent great but its still decent citys specialy considering the AI normally settle citys in the mid of the tundra. Maybe something with france in Austraila makes them confused.
huerfanista
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I'm having a ton o' fun shadowing this. 
(No real spoilers, but just in case):
No slavery will be really tough. There was no way I was going to try that, but if anyone can do it, Mad can.
I'd suggest CoL + MC ASAP and rely on caste workshops for 
and specialists for 
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(No real spoilers, but just in case):
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). I've recently moved into S. America and am finally getting some monster cities going. At the start, I spent 7 turns hiking across Oz to Darwin, which has turned out to be a great capital (GLH, colossus, Broadway). I never thought I could be competetive given this land, but I'm sure the game is winnable if I can be doing this well. 
I've only been in one war (I DOWed Toku to take Manilla from him).
No slavery will be really tough. There was no way I was going to try that, but if anyone can do it, Mad can.
I'd suggest CoL + MC ASAP and rely on caste workshops for and specialists for .
iggymnrr
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Gave this a start, almost out of the BCs, basically duplicating what Mad has done. Wondering if Japan is part of the "mainland" or can it be considered part of "Indonesia." If Japan is not then it seems like Australia/Indonesia can be settled peacefully for 10 or so reasonable cities. Furthermore, possessing all of Indonesia will most likely entail 2 wars, India and Japan, for a net gain of maybe 2 cities. May not be worth the animosity as 10 cities may suffice, at least on emperor.
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Yared
That Guy
Changing history is inevitable...
