ryanjames' mods-Civilisations, small and large

[Uighur_Caesar]

Maybe the UI could provide an additional +1 Food on hills? It's dissimilar enough from Afghanistan and Bhutan and still provides a good bonus.

 

[Hoop Thrower]

Also, the UI feels a tad redundant on getting bonus from mountains as it already generates culture so it already causes damage due to UA.

 

[JFD]

UA: Enemy units suffer from attrition damage when adjacent to mountains

Just so it doesn't seem like I'm copying later, my Duranni civ is intended to have this as a part of their UA.

 

[bouncymischa]

Just so it doesn't seem like I'm copying later, my Duranni civ is intended to have this as a part of their UA.

There are no new ideas.

Although, to be fair, people are always coming up with incredible new ideas... but some concepts (such as attrition) can just work so well for a civ I don't see any real issues with duplication or similarity, so long as the civs as a whole feel distinctive and unique.

 

[Hoop Thrower]

Yeah, I think the real problem here is that there's only so many things you can do with mountains.

 

[lordrj15]

Not really sure what to make of it, ideally I'd like my civs to be something different from other peoples, and though the Vainakhs would be released before Durrani (assuming it is far up your list, or you have multiple projects) you will have thought of the idea first.

Hmm . . . designing civs is getting harder and harder.

I wonder if I can do anything cool with the Abrek

 

[shaglio]

I think this is the first time I've heard JFD mention anything about a Duranni civ.

 

[Alga2]

JFDs Duranni civ = Enlightment Era Afghanistan.

 

[JFD]

Not really sure what to make of it, ideally I'd like my civs to be something different from other peoples, and though the Vainakhs would be released before Durrani (assuming it is far up your list, or you have multiple projects) you will have thought of the idea first.

Hmm . . . designing civs is getting harder and harder.

I wonder if I can do anything cool with the Abrek

Fwiw, I did not intend to discourage you from your existing UA/effect. Just wanted to make my plans transparent.

I don't think you should consider overlap too significant. After all, MC followed up Teddy's UU's influence when stationed in CS borders immediately with the same effect for the Maori Battle Lion. So it's not an uncommon occurence.

 

[Uighur_Caesar]

I really don't think that there's a need to change the UA since the attrition from culture tiles makes it different enough anyway.

 

[lordrj15]

I may have found the greatest thing in existence

Spoiler :

 

[lordrj15]

Right, potential new Vainakh design

UA-Free like wolves

"Units within your territory gain +x% combat strength per adjacent hill tile, (not sure how codable that is though). Cities gain +10% defensive combat strength per completed social policy tree"

UU-"Abrek"

Replaces cavalry, gains a combat boost next turn if it was attacked previously. Gains culture from pillaging tiles, gains defensive terrain bonuses.

UI-Vainakh towers

Unlocked at construction, must be built on hills, +1 food/culture (doubled if next to mountains), +50% defense. Deals damage to adjacent enemies if the tile is occupied.

I'm unsure about how exciting the second part of the UA is, but other than I think I've got a good design here.

 

[lordrj15]

I'm suddenly tempted to make a Pontus civ

 

[Danmacsch]

That would be pretty awesome . I say you give in to that temptation.

 

[Ajsieg]

That would be pretty awesome . I say you give in to that temptation.

Yes please! I would love a Pontus civ, though isn't someone else also going to make it?

 

[lordrj15]

That would be pretty awesome . I say you give in to that temptation.

I have given in to temptation

Spoiler :

I'm not sure if any other modders are doing Pontus, after talking to some big modders, I assume some would've known, apparently a Pontus civ is planned for Civ VI.

 

[NiaoMeow]

I have given in to temptation

Spoiler :

I'm not sure if any other modders are doing Pontus, after talking to some big modders, I assume some would've known, apparently a Pontus civ is planned for Civ VI.

This is some hot tea that needs investigation.


Does this also mean modders already have new civs planned for VI?

 

[lordrj15]

*CONSPIRACY INTENSIFIES*

If anyone has any ideas (like say a scythed war chariot UU?) lob them at me.

 

[Ajsieg]

*CONSPIRACY INTENSIFIES*

If anyone has any ideas (like say a scythed war chariot UU?) lob them at me.

Chalkaspides UU
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalkaspides

Drepanophora Hamata (Scythed War Chariot)

Spoiler :

(Pontic heavy chariots) : Although totally obsolete by the beginnings of the Mithridatic wars, the scythed chariots were an old tradition of the east, preserved by both the Seleucids and Pontic kingdom, and proved successful many times against not disciplined, protected, or well trained troops. It has nothing to do with the old urartian and assyrian or even persian war chariots, which were used by javelineers, archers and spearmen, but these late chariots were very fast, design like race chariots with four horses (quadrigai) on a suspended light framework, two huge scythe blades beeing riveted to the framework, through the wheel axis. The pilot post was cladded with iron straps, leathered wood panels, and the pilot himself was heavily armoured, like ancient mycenanean chariot crew.

There's also Thorakitai that was used up till the Third Mith. War.

Sparabara (Levy Spearman)

Kardaka (Light Mountaineer Assault Troops)

Basically look at this website:

Spoiler :

http://www.ancient-battles.com/catw/pontos.htm
Pontic army : Due to the pontic roots, Pontic army was mixed and original. Mithridates was clearly a persian ruler, but heavily hellenized. His army was composed by greek style and persian style warriors. The "old" army, those of the beginnings in 300bc, was probably still heavily persian in style. It could have counted on levy spearmen like the sparabara, light mountaineers assault troops as the kardaka, and archers. Elite units would have been probably of royal takabara and kardaka style. Pontic cavalry was described having units of numerous horse skirmishers, an unusual fact as most eastern horsemen use bows instead. This was a product of the ancient persian style cavalry. Local troops were also available in large numbers, from cappadocia for the most, scythians from the black sea as mercenaries, even sarmatians. Nearby armenian mountaineers could also make valuable and cheap raiding infantry. Lately, in 150 bc., Pontus accesses to its greatest extent during Mithridates VI reign, and troops from all minor asia were available. A large part of the infantry was now composed of light "romanized" soldiers, driven from the light successors thureophoroi and the thorakitai evolution. Although this army was still impressive, it was no match against the Roman legions which crushed them definitely at Chaeroneia, when the pontic commander, Archelaus, gathered an army of 120 000 composed of Pontic, Thracian, Bithynian, Cappadocian, Scythian, Phrygian and Galatian troops. Sulla's tactic for his 40 000 roman legionaries and greek-macedonian defected troops rendered the famous pontic scythian chariots useless while having his infantry on the top of the chaeronian hills.

 

[Ixor_Drakar]

I was also going to suggest the Thorakitai, basically the Greeks answer to the Romans.