Saturn Embassy

it's not a haiku, is the only problem - first line is 6 syllables. Take out either the a (to face common threat) or the to (face a common threat) - I kind of like the 2nd better ;)

Face a common threat
Our armies march together
And we will succeed
 
Thanks AT, it's changed. :)

reposted since we're on a new page.

Greetings DMOC and Team Saturn,

Team SANCTA is grateful for your unwavering support. Together we have managed to repeatedly pull the rug out from under Cav and Kaz's plans. We watched with glee as Kaz and Cav considered themselves far too ahead of the game to be beat only for our alliance to totally obliterate their machinations.

Currently our research plan is Machinery, optics, then gunpowder, ultimately heading for rifles, where we should be able to use the payout from liberalism to draft and hopefully crush an under-prepared Kaz. As always, we look forward to sharing these techs with you as they are researched.

Do you have an ETA on drama? Hopefully when you are able to get it we will be able to start building theaters, with the goal of building a GT in TKY, where we will be able to use it for maximum effect when we start drafting.

We look forward to continued operations together,

Iamjohn for Team SANCTA


Face a common threat
Our armies march together
And we will succeed
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I was about to make fun of IamJohn for his 4-8-6 haiku and then I mess up myself, hehe. :)
 
Response from Saturn:

SANCTA,
. .
Thank you for your timely response. Your plan to research. .Rifling sounds good. The only issue would be if any of the other three teams were to suddenly attack us before you managed to research Rifling. We'll have to keep our guard on the other teams, especially Team Cavalieros, as they are currently in a Golden Age.
. .
We'll continue supplying you with gold, and then finish Drama for those lovely theatres.
. .
Any ideas or suggestions. .to what civics Team Saturn should be running? We're currently in Bureaucracy but it might make sense to switch to Free Speech and Free Religion.
. .
Thanks again for being a fantastic ally. This game has truly demonstrated the coordination and planning necessary to win a Civ game, and it has been fun to be the first to get Liberalism and Music.
. .
DMOC and Team Saturn
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FR is good for them. We also get merc soon so they might as well wait for that. then they can switch to both at the same time. (and run artists in thier new cities for free since they are in caste)

As for Free Speech well that we would need a pic of all thier cities for to figure it out.
 
Here's a rough draft. I'll go through it again either tonight or tomorrow night, giving people a chance to look through and give any other additional thoughts they might have.


Hey Saturn,

It's always good to have a partner willing to talk. Wondering around in this jungle alone could easily drive someone into insanity if you aren't careful!

We are carefully watching Cav as well, hopefully with their deep investment when attempting to get liberalism they will have a hole to climb out of with regards to military development. We will however continue to carefully monitor the situation.

With regards to your civics, after some consideration by Master Micromanager Memphus we think that the best civic choices would probably be Free Religion, and Mercantilism once it is researched, which can allow you to run free artists in your new cities since your in caste. How ever to determine if Free Speech would be an appropriate civic for you we would been a picture of your cities to properly determine it's cost effectiveness for you.

We hope this has been helpful, let us know if you have any other concerns or thoughts, both strategic or tactical. :)

Iamjohn for Team Sancta
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instead of asking for pics rights away we could ask them if they have done the calculation. (for free religion)
 
Er...Saturn gifted 161 gpt last turn, not 161 gold...next 9 turns are going to be interesting...
 
That's a :smoke: of a misclick.

At least it's not as bad as Imperio trading a tech with the wrong team, and is probably salvageable. I guess we're going to have to refund them some of that when they need it? Or just pray that they don't need to upgrade anything for the next 10 turns?
 
I suggest that we don't use the gpt trade function, but manually send them 50gold each turn, instead. Of course, that's probably the course we're already taking. :p
 
I'll send this in around 8-12 hours if no one else has anything else to add. Anyone feel like coming up with a haiku? Maybe something humorous to the two teams about the accidentally messed up gpt trade?

Namaste Saturn!

It's always good to have a partner willing to talk. Wondering around in this jungle alone could easily drive someone into insanity if you aren't careful!

We are carefully watching Cav as well, hopefully with their deep investment when attempting to get liberalism they will have a hole to climb out of with regards to military development. We will however continue to carefully monitor the situation. Our guaranteed peace from our ceasefire with Kaz ends this turn, so that is a concern for us, but we are taking steps to deal with the situation in the event that they decide to invade again.

With regards to your civics, after some consideration by Master Micromanager Memphus we think that the best civic choices would probably be Free Religion, and Mercantilism once it is researched, which can allow you to run free artists in your new cities since your in caste. How ever to determine if Free Speech would be an appropriate civic for you we would either need to see calculations if you have them for Free Religion, or a picture of your cities to properly determine its cost effectiveness for you.

We hope this has been helpful, let us know if you have any other concerns or thoughts, both strategic or tactical.

Iamjohn for Team Sancta
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Edit: Sent
 
Response from Saturn:

plako said:
Hi SANCTA,

Cavs power has raised during the couple of previous turns. However they are not allocating their espionage points on us. Wild guess: You get them ;). On the other hand MS has concentrated their points on us (7 points/turn) and we can't see their Demographics currently.

Concerning the suggestion to change to Free Speech + Mercantilism. (Free Religion would make sense only, if we research something.) I like the idea of getting some cultural walls and border pops to our cities however it might be too expensive. Here are some rough facts:
* Losing trade routes would cost us ~4 commerce/city (assuming internal routes are worth 1 commerce only) => -28 C
* We've only 2 towns currently (+4 C), but within next 30 turns we'll get 9 more of them (+18 C)
* We'll get +7 beakers and 4*100% = +8 Culture/city
* Losing Bureacracy costs some further beakers/hammers
* You've trade routes only to us and MS. You might lose some commerce when you lose our trade routes

On the other hand I've been thinking should we just start preparing for inevitable war and switch to Nationalism and start drafting units while expanding.

plako from Team Saturn
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Do they have enough food to draft effectively?

They should be building Workshops and farms IMO. It is way to late to try and develop cottages without Democracy.
 
I am NOT against them drafting...but they need food!

Mostly, I'm concerned about them trying to develop cottages from scratch at this point. They need to settle where they have food and can build workshops or mines or both.
 
Demogame Great Person

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Have you already had a Golden Age before?

I'm hoping that Team Saturn can generate a Great Person in Saturn so we can gift it to you and you can use a Golden Age.

What do you think?

DMOC


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Hey DMOC ~

We have had 1. But we have a GS comming out soon that if we had another GP we could go to GA. Our Last GA got both of us back into the tech game, this one coudl take us ahead!

Our galley that jsut sailed by, I could send back for the GP so you coudl sail them over?

When would it be here?

Memphus
 
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