Krill says (19:19):
Hey Plako
got a moment?
Plako says (19:19):
hi
yes
peace?
Krill says (19:20):
I just wanted to check that you were still OK sending gold to SANCTA
nope
Kaz ignored us (now we get to ignore them)
Plako says (19:20):
So you go for Machinery?
after CS
Krill says (19:21):
not sure. Partially depends on when you are revolting to Bureacracy
Plako says (19:21):
We've considered to switch also Caste with Bureacracy and generate a Great Scientist in 7-10 turns
Krill says (19:21):
Ah
We're going to do the same
Plako says (19:21):
Maybe bulb philosophy or build acaedmy
Krill says (19:21):
OK
If you do want to buklb philo
we could get to Lib around t130
Plako says (19:22):
Would that make sense to you?
Krill says (19:22):
yeah, it makes sense
Plako says (19:22):
If it gives us religion it might make sense
* more sense
Krill says (19:22):
Sure, We're happy for you to take the religion
We would liek a missionary off you if you got the religion
Krill says (19:23):
we might be able to get yuo a GP for the shrine
no promises there though
Plako says (19:23):
You don't have one of your own
Krill says (19:23):
Nah
We'd only want a religion for the Org Rel boni
which we would appreciate, mind
Plako says (19:23):
We could send the free one yo you
Krill says (19:24):
We would have a galley in position to bring it back around then, too...
Plako says (19:24):
But academy would be nice also
Krill says (19:24):
the one that sailed past you is on the way back
hmmm
Plako says (19:24):
ok.
Krill says (19:24):
In about 15 turns we're going to have an acedemy in our new capital
we'll be making around 400 bpt
Krill says (19:25):
If you are happy sending us gold still...
Plako says (19:25):
We should switch our capital also, but it is too expensive now I'm afraid
We'll send you this and next turn as planned
Krill says (19:25):
Thanks
Plako says (19:26):
Then we should think if we want Drama
Krill says (19:26):
I'm sure we can sort out what our plans are over the next two turnd
yup
Plako says (19:26):
Or would your funding make more sense
Krill says (19:26):
sorry, brb, dinnert
Plako says (19:26):
no prob
Krill says (19:41):
back
Plako says (19:41):
ok.
Krill says (19:41):
I'll run some numbers
Krill says (19:42):
see how fast we can get to Lib
Bulbing Philo would definately speed it up
Krill says (19:48):
Plako, do you know how fast you can research at max research, with Bureaucracy?
Plako says (19:48):
not exactly. Our capital isn't that commerce high.
Krill says (19:49):
Doe it have a Lighthouse?
Plako says (19:49):
no
Krill says (19:49):
Really in Breaucracy you are going to want to grow your capital onto financial coast
Plako says (19:49):
But we could built it next
Krill says (19:57):
See, the interesting thing is the cost of Education
2691 beakers
Krill says (19:58):
It's "most efficient" for one person to bulb that to get the full advantage of the bulb
but then you wouldn't get teh religion
and if you bulbed it you would have to research it
and that might slow us both down to Lib
so I'm currently running the numbers for 3 scenarios
well, technically 4
Krill says (19:59):
Bulbing Edu
bulbing Philo
Researching everything with Drama
and without drama
Plako says (20:00):
ok. We can do without religion I guess. Had to ask from others
Krill says (20:00):
Nah
at the moment it's looking like bulbing philo is the best
and ignoring Drama
just for the fastest route to Lib
I'm just going to see the costs and benefits of each one
Plako says (20:01):
ok. So we would feed you gold to research edu until we can bulb philo
Is this the scenario you're considering?
Krill says (20:01):
If we do it taht way we'd have to withhold Paper until you bulb Philo
Plako says (20:01):
oops
Krill says (20:01):
but that is looking like the fastest way to Lib, if you agree we should head there
Plako says (20:02):
bulbing order
Krill says (20:02):
not a big problem
Because you bulb Philo
Plako says (20:02):
So you've tme for Machinery and something else
Krill says (20:02):
and we research Edu
nah
We'll do without machinery
on the timescale we are looking at, not getting Machinery is OK
We'll only be able to get Nationalism with Lib though
Plako says (20:03):
Better than nothing
Krill says (20:03):
Well
better than letting Cav get it
Plako says (20:03):
Or could we try something better withut danger of losing it
Plako says (20:04):
You don't need Consitution. Maybe Chemistry?
But then we would had to get Gunpowder
Krill says (20:05):
Can get GP from Edu
but Cav do have a head start on us
so we might have to just take Nationalism
Just as an aside, you traded Maps with Cav, right?
Plako says (20:06):
yes
Krill says (20:06):
did you trade maps with anyone else, or did Cav trade with anyone else before giving you their map?
Plako says (20:06):
no one else
Krill says (20:06):
ok
Plako says (20:06):
We don't see Kazs, but most of the MS land
Krill says (20:07):
Well, we'd get Paper eot 121
cool
It would have been sloppy of Kaz to trade away their map
Krill says (20:26):
ok
we can get Education by eot t128
[/color]Krill says (20:27):
which is 7 turns to research a 2700 beaker tech
Plako says (20:27):
very fast at this early stage
Krill says (20:27):
hehe
I can't give an estimate of Lib
there are too many unkowns
but it looks like...
Plako says (20:28):
So philo should be bulbed after edu is ready?
Krill says (20:28):
Preferably before
Krill says (20:29):
idealy we would need you to bulb the turn we finish Education
so the turn after you can trade it to us
and we can go straight onto Lib
Plako says (20:29):
I'm slow. So we naturally don't have paper at that point
Krill says (20:29):
Yeah
Krill says (20:30):
You'd bulb philo
then next turn we trade paper for Philo
if you revolt t118 to bureacracy and Caste
Plako says (20:30):
We should convert immediately after we get CS
Krill says (20:30):
you would have 8 turns to get the GS
Plako says (20:31):
10 turns should be enough. 4 Scientist do the job
Krill says (20:31):
you would need to get teh GS on t126
you can use it t127
Plako says (20:31):
alright
Krill says (20:31):
er
lemme check, might be wrong
no
Krill says (20:32):
need to pop the GS t127
bulb t128
trade t129
so we can research t129
so 9 turns
4 scientists would get it done
Plako says (20:32):
so we have 9 turns and 4 scientists are enough with 0 GPP at the beginning
Krill says (20:33):
yup
Plako says (20:33):
So we've a plan. I'l present it to the others, but I guess this should be ok
What about gold
Plako says (20:34):
we give you all the time until education is ready all we have
Krill says (20:34):
Yeah
We'd need your gold to keep up with the research
I don't know the exact turn Lib would fall
Krill says (20:35):
between t132 and t134
Plako says (20:35):
Probably quite even race
Krill says (20:35):
That's without us building research
Plako says (20:35):
MS probaly supports Cavs
Krill says (20:35):
Which if need be we could probably use, to shave of a turn, maybe two
Krill says (20:36):
Yeah
TBH, if Cav just took Nationalism that wouldn't be the worst outcome
But we're in with a shot
Krill says (20:37):
and considering where we both were 25 turns ago...
Plako says (20:37):
yeah. One important reason to do this it prevent them takin something more expensive
Krill says (20:39):
Yeah, pretty much
Krill says (20:40):
If it looks like we are hopelessly outclassed we can reconsider, but with both of us getting Burecracy, and use getting Rep powered scientists, it'll be interesting.
