SC03 - Oscillating War for Dummies
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The Great Egyptian Empire was rolling along quite nicely. Of course, we have always been at war with Mansa Musa. The common citizens of the empire knew no other way to live, and were content, except for some rabble-rousers at The Capital (as soon as we invent Mathematics, well build a special room for them well call it Room 101).
All was well until that fateful day, when the new emperor disappeared and could not be found, despite his protests to the contrary. Instead, a young never-do-well was given the keys to the kingdom and told to get a move on, as some guy called Christ should be showing up in a hundred and fifty years, and the place should look nice and tidy for his arrival.
The newly crowned gentleman took note of his surroundings, applauded the capture of Timbuktu and... well, the fact that the empire was still around despite all their enemies efforts to the contrary.
He then launched into a grumpy diatribe.
Why are we building the Pyramids? Instead of wasting our time gathering large blocks of stone we should be spending it building more chariots to war against Mansa. Pyramids is the most expensive wonder in Ancient Age. Its benefits are dubious for us we do not suffer from war weariness, and representations useless for us. Considering our losses, another dozen chariots would have been infinitely more useful for us right now.
To add insult to injury, we are being attacked at Thebes a city defended by a lone (unpromoted?) archer (see picture one). Not that other cities are doing better Outcasts have a single archer, Paradise has a warrior(!), and the capital got a single axeman. We cannot produce any more axemen because our copper was pillaged (see the picture once again).
So, I drop the Pyramids, rush a war chariot in capital, move our axeman in the upper left of the picture south once so that the barbarian axeman is distracted from the city. It takes a bit of mental juggling, and we lose the axeman, but Thebes is saved. A worker goes off to rebuild the mine, and gets eaten by an axeman from the fog (the axeman must have used the road we thoughtfully built for him).
Throughout my turn, I just build war chariots in our cities (well, Paradise had Barracks to finish first, and a couple of archers next, and Outcasts had a Granary queued up, so I let that finish first, but military was pretty much all I built).
We had a lot of barbarian archers coming in from both east and west, so theres an extra archer (non-city garrison) in both Paradise and Outcasts. Id suggest moving them out to some jungled hills outside our borders (1S 3W of Outcasts, 1S 2E (?) of Paradise).
Timbuktu is being developed nicely (see picture two) but has barbarians coming in almost every turn. My forces around Djenne have been traded one-for-one for Mansas skirmishers (actually, Ive got three of his guys, and lost two chariots, so its even better than that) he went out and attacked me. His current garrison has only one promoted skirmisher, but the city is on a hill our chances are pretty bad.
Lizzy and Huayna suggested open borders during my turnset. I agreed as there was no reason not to. Lizzy also got Confucianism in 25 AD.
We might consider producing some axemen to send over to Djenne. They will be slow, but promote them with City Raider 2, and they have some chances against a city on a mountaintop. Then again, maybe not at least War Chariots are immune to Mansas first strikes. We have half a dozen of those getting ready to make the long trek down south although its probably better to wait for a few more.
Ive tried to build up our roads a bit for rapid response charioteering.
Best of luck, guys!
All was well until that fateful day, when the new emperor disappeared and could not be found, despite his protests to the contrary. Instead, a young never-do-well was given the keys to the kingdom and told to get a move on, as some guy called Christ should be showing up in a hundred and fifty years, and the place should look nice and tidy for his arrival.
The newly crowned gentleman took note of his surroundings, applauded the capture of Timbuktu and... well, the fact that the empire was still around despite all their enemies efforts to the contrary.
He then launched into a grumpy diatribe.
Why are we building the Pyramids? Instead of wasting our time gathering large blocks of stone we should be spending it building more chariots to war against Mansa. Pyramids is the most expensive wonder in Ancient Age. Its benefits are dubious for us we do not suffer from war weariness, and representations useless for us. Considering our losses, another dozen chariots would have been infinitely more useful for us right now.
To add insult to injury, we are being attacked at Thebes a city defended by a lone (unpromoted?) archer (see picture one). Not that other cities are doing better Outcasts have a single archer, Paradise has a warrior(!), and the capital got a single axeman. We cannot produce any more axemen because our copper was pillaged (see the picture once again).
So, I drop the Pyramids, rush a war chariot in capital, move our axeman in the upper left of the picture south once so that the barbarian axeman is distracted from the city. It takes a bit of mental juggling, and we lose the axeman, but Thebes is saved. A worker goes off to rebuild the mine, and gets eaten by an axeman from the fog (the axeman must have used the road we thoughtfully built for him).
Throughout my turn, I just build war chariots in our cities (well, Paradise had Barracks to finish first, and a couple of archers next, and Outcasts had a Granary queued up, so I let that finish first, but military was pretty much all I built).
We had a lot of barbarian archers coming in from both east and west, so theres an extra archer (non-city garrison) in both Paradise and Outcasts. Id suggest moving them out to some jungled hills outside our borders (1S 3W of Outcasts, 1S 2E (?) of Paradise).
Timbuktu is being developed nicely (see picture two) but has barbarians coming in almost every turn. My forces around Djenne have been traded one-for-one for Mansas skirmishers (actually, Ive got three of his guys, and lost two chariots, so its even better than that) he went out and attacked me. His current garrison has only one promoted skirmisher, but the city is on a hill our chances are pretty bad.
Lizzy and Huayna suggested open borders during my turnset. I agreed as there was no reason not to. Lizzy also got Confucianism in 25 AD.
We might consider producing some axemen to send over to Djenne. They will be slow, but promote them with City Raider 2, and they have some chances against a city on a mountaintop. Then again, maybe not at least War Chariots are immune to Mansas first strikes. We have half a dozen of those getting ready to make the long trek down south although its probably better to wait for a few more.
Ive tried to build up our roads a bit for rapid response charioteering.
Best of luck, guys!
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Roster check
Bede - up to whack a few barbs, bust some more fog, and kill the rest of Mansa's skirmiashers
JH - on deck
Maquis - one Mali city down....
s/w - skipped
Maksim - ranted, raved and got some more things done.
And got it. Will play in 1.61
Bede - up to whack a few barbs, bust some more fog, and kill the rest of Mansa's skirmiashers
JH - on deck
Maquis - one Mali city down....
s/w - skipped
Maksim - ranted, raved and got some more things done.
And got it. Will play in 1.61
Well, not quite. Killed a few barbs though.
Playing in 1.61 means that Horseback Riding is now a Classical knowledge so reset the science budget to zero.
In 100AD Mansa's skirmishers attack and we trade pieces at Djenne. One skirmisher for one chariot.
And 125 years later the same thing happens. But there are now a herd of chariots in place and axemen coming down the pike. An archer defeated a barb axeman in the NE and two chariots earned promotions in the south killing an axe and two more archers.
And so it goes: training axes and killing barbarians around every corner. There is a nice killing field at Paradise. The barbarians show themselves on the grasslands and get killed.
The worker has been running roads so that troops can move in and out quickly. There are two workers finisihing the connection through the woods to Timbuktu, two workers putting up mines at Thebes, and the last worker is running a road to the new city site.
And I am trying something new at Djenne. Putting a single chariot out as bait next to the city with several more in reserve. If Mansa attacks we stand some chance of winning and if we lose his skirmisher is weakened and should be easy prey for the reserve units. And if he should attack twice to finish a wounded chariot we just might get two.
I also moved the archer out of Tumbuktu to provide coverage for the follow up. Timbuktu is building warriors for upgrade when the road comes in connecting the copper.
Roster check
Roster check
JH - on deck
Maquis - one Mali city down....
s/w - skipped
Maksim - ranted, raved and got some more things done.
Bede - whacked a few barbs, busted a little more fog, but didn't kill the rest of Mansa's skirmishers, built a few axes to hopefully finish the job.
Playing in 1.61 means that Horseback Riding is now a Classical knowledge so reset the science budget to zero.
In 100AD Mansa's skirmishers attack and we trade pieces at Djenne. One skirmisher for one chariot.
And 125 years later the same thing happens. But there are now a herd of chariots in place and axemen coming down the pike. An archer defeated a barb axeman in the NE and two chariots earned promotions in the south killing an axe and two more archers.
And so it goes: training axes and killing barbarians around every corner. There is a nice killing field at Paradise. The barbarians show themselves on the grasslands and get killed.
The worker has been running roads so that troops can move in and out quickly. There are two workers finisihing the connection through the woods to Timbuktu, two workers putting up mines at Thebes, and the last worker is running a road to the new city site.
And I am trying something new at Djenne. Putting a single chariot out as bait next to the city with several more in reserve. If Mansa attacks we stand some chance of winning and if we lose his skirmisher is weakened and should be easy prey for the reserve units. And if he should attack twice to finish a wounded chariot we just might get two.
I also moved the archer out of Tumbuktu to provide coverage for the follow up. Timbuktu is building warriors for upgrade when the road comes in connecting the copper.
Roster check
Roster check
JH - on deck
Maquis - one Mali city down....
s/w - skipped
Maksim - ranted, raved and got some more things done.
Bede - whacked a few barbs, busted a little more fog, but didn't kill the rest of Mansa's skirmishers, built a few axes to hopefully finish the job.
Bede, good job on thinning down Mansa's ranks. Now, as long as we don't let his settler (should he build one) out of the city gates, we should be able to finally finish him off.
It might actually be worth it to keep Djenne, I think. It's on the river, and has some sheep.
It might actually be worth it to keep Djenne, I think. It's on the river, and has some sheep.
JerichoHill
Bedrock of Knowledge
I see it, can play it on thursday. so if youre wanting speed, skip me.
Wednesday are no Civ days
Wednesday are no Civ days
JerichoHill
Bedrock of Knowledge
Sorry guys, just got in, work has been hell this week and Ive got a meeting in the morning with the section chief.
skip me this turn, ill be available next week when the case Im on dies down a bit
skip me this turn, ill be available next week when the case Im on dies down a bit
Roster check:
Maquis - up for one more Mali city down....
s/w - on deck
Maksim - ranted, raved and got some more things done.
Bede - whacked a few barbs, busted a little more fog, but didn't kill the rest of Mansa's skirmishers, built a few axes to hopefully finish the job.
JH - skipped
Maquis - up for one more Mali city down....
s/w - on deck
Maksim - ranted, raved and got some more things done.
Bede - whacked a few barbs, busted a little more fog, but didn't kill the rest of Mansa's skirmishers, built a few axes to hopefully finish the job.
JH - skipped
soul_warrior
Termite!
have it, and WILL get this one out.
only problem is i will only be able to play MONDAY NIGHT, so ill stretch the 48 hour mark a bit.
only problem is i will only be able to play MONDAY NIGHT, so ill stretch the 48 hour mark a bit.
JerichoHill
Bedrock of Knowledge
hey umm i am back!
Roster check:
Maksim - up
JH - on deck
Bede - whacked a few barbs, busted a little more fog, but didn't kill the rest of Mansa's skirmishers, built a few axes to hopefully finish the job.
Maquis - Skipped
s/w - it's now tuesday night so you got skipped
Maksim - up
JH - on deck
Bede - whacked a few barbs, busted a little more fog, but didn't kill the rest of Mansa's skirmishers, built a few axes to hopefully finish the job.
Maquis - Skipped
s/w - it's now tuesday night so you got skipped
JerichoHill
Bedrock of Knowledge
i should have time to play tonight
JerichoHill
Bedrock of Knowledge
nope, with lost , 2 sg's and gotm, no time sot
Brief report.
Very boring set of turns. Nothing happened. I built a couple of settlers. Moved most of our axes down south to meet Mansa. We are losing money at 0% research rate. Killed a few barbarians and one of Mansa's skirmishers who attacked a chariot. Haven’t lost a single unit.
The next player should be able to take down Mansa, and then we’ll have to see whether we can dig us out of this hole.
Very boring set of turns. Nothing happened. I built a couple of settlers. Moved most of our axes down south to meet Mansa. We are losing money at 0% research rate. Killed a few barbarians and one of Mansa's skirmishers who attacked a chariot. Haven’t lost a single unit.
The next player should be able to take down Mansa, and then we’ll have to see whether we can dig us out of this hole.
If we are in a hole that is just when the fun begins. Picks and shovels, gang!
Roster check:
JH - up - kill him this time!
Bede - whacked a few barbs, busted a little more fog, but didn't kill the rest of Mansa's skirmishers, built a few axes to hopefully finish the job.
Maquis - Skipped
s/w - it's now tuesday night so you got skipped
Maksim - getting bummed by a lack of action.
Roster check:
JH - up - kill him this time!
Bede - whacked a few barbs, busted a little more fog, but didn't kill the rest of Mansa's skirmishers, built a few axes to hopefully finish the job.
Maquis - Skipped
s/w - it's now tuesday night so you got skipped
Maksim - getting bummed by a lack of action.
