SCENARIO: The Napoleonic Wars Mk. II

[Procifica]

Würzburg's borders were expanded some (it only included 11 tiles before the change).

Wurzburg was only a very small state I believe, just the city and a small area around it. If anything, it should be set smaller. Its population is set high too...I'm pretty sure Baden and Württemburg were larger than Wurzburg, and larger than what you have listed as well.

African Minors probably should be larger.

London Population 1800: 861,000
Constantinople Population 1800: 570,000
Paris Population 1800: 547,000
Naples Population 1800: 430,000
Manchester Population 1800: ~75,000 1814: 75,000
Stockholm Population 1800: ~75,000
Glasgow and Edinburgh in 1800 had 100,000 each.
Moscow Population 1814: 250,000
Vienna Population 1814: 247,000
St. Petersburg Population 1814: 220,000
Amsterdam Population 1814: 201,000
Berlin Population 1814: 172,000
Milan Population 1814: 170,000
Dublin Population 1814: 165,000
Rome Population 1814: 153,000
Marseilles Population 1814: 111,000
Lyon Population 1814: 110,000
Warsaw Population 1814: 100,000
Genoa Population 1814: 100,000
Bordeaux Population 1814: 91,000
Liverpool Population 1814: 82,000
Turin Population 1814: 78,000
Birmingham Population 1814: 71,000
Prague Population 1814: 75,000
Budapest Population 1814: 54,000

Ireland in 1800 had 4.5 Million people, it was the most densely populated country in Europe. (part of UK)
Sweden population 1800: 2.347 million (excluding Finland) two sources quote same population
All of Germany in 1800 had 25 million people. 1806: 27 million
France population 1801: 27.5 million 1805: 28.92 million
British population in 1800 (excluding Ireland): 9 million (Of this total, 1.6 million was in Scotland.) Another source 1801 (excluding Ireland): 10.5 million 1811: 11.970 million
Austria population 1780: 11.723 million 1818: 13.381 million Austria proper 1800: 3.064 million
Norway population 1801: 883,000
Finland population 1800: 832,000
Spain population 1789: 10 million 1810: 11.5 million
All of Italy 1800: 17.237 million
Switzerland (Helvetia) 1815: 1.558 million
Greater Hungary 1800 (excludes Austrian portion of Austrian Empire, basically this is Hungarian portion like it was in 1867): 8 million
Denmark 1801: 929,000 (excludes Norway)
Netherlands 1804: 2.155 million
Belgium 1816: 3.611 million
Prussia Population 1800: 10.4 million

Poland partitions added 9 million to Prussia's population by 1795. In 1807 half of Prussia's population was ceded elsewhere.

Here is a link for Russian cities for 1811: http://www.napoleon-series.org/research/abstract/population/population/russia/c_russpop3.html

Most of the country population figures above are from the same source.

Hope these figures help.

 

[Procifica]

Quote: Any way, the Duke of Savoy, owner of Piemont got Sicilia in 1719, and then exchanged it for Sardinia in 1723, thus becoming king of Piemont - Sardinia. So there's no reason why Savoy and Piemont should be independant

I was thinking the same thing, this was called the Kingdom of Sardinia starting in 1815 but not sure about this time period. Piedmont was not as large in 1792-1814 as it became in 1815 though.

 

[Yoda Power]

Originally posted by Stormbringer
here's my first try at it....I think it looks more Italian, so you can use it for Italian states, and maybe Spain...

You have any pictures I can use? Or maybe just sucgestions?

if you use these graphics, you should give some credit to PCHighway.

 

[Steph]

Originally posted by Procifica
ay population 1801: 883 million
Finland population 1800: 832 million

I understand the Viking invasion now. They really needed to settle elsewhere, their homeland should have been rather crowded.

 

[Stormbringer]

Originally posted by Yoda Power


if you use these graphics, you should give some credit to PCHighway.

I know, I used his as a base, and edited them a little bit. I was not really serious about putting them it, just taknig something edditing it a bit, and seeing how people like it. I really don't know what I am going for, so I used his sitties to start.

 

[Procifica]

Steph: was a big typo, I corrected those population figures. They should be in thousands, not millions.

 

[Rocoteh]

How many troops will a land unit represent?
How many ships will a naval unit represent?

 

[Jon Shafer]

Originally posted by Procifica
Würzburg's borders were expanded some (it only included 11 tiles before the change).

Wurzburg was only a very small state I believe, just the city and a small area around it. If anything, it should be set smaller. Its population is set high too...I'm pretty sure Baden and Württemburg were larger than Wurzburg, and larger than what you have listed as well.

African Minors probably should be larger.

Lots o' numbers.

Poland partitions added 9 million to Prussia's population by 1795. In 1807 half of Prussia's population was ceded elsewhere.

Here is a link for Russian cities for 1811: http://www.napoleon-series.org/research/abstract/population/population/russia/c_russpop3.html

Most of the country population figures above are from the same source.

Hope these figures help.

I have two options. I can either try to make the population of the cities correct, or I can make the population of the entire nation correct. Since I have no hope of putting every major city on the map, I decided to lean towards the nation. After all, the borders represented in the scenario include the real borders, so realistically the countries should also include their proper populations also. Though, this does make the cities rather large. I may have to reduce them a bit.

 

[Jon Shafer]

Originally posted by Rocoteh
How many troops will a land unit represent?
How many ships will a naval unit represent?

Not sure about that yet. I think for ships it will be close to a 1:1 ratio, at least for large boats.

For land units, I'm not quite sure yet. Rough figures right now would be each unit represents ~2,000 infantry, ~1,000 cavalry and 20 cannons. I'll have to do some balancing though, to see what unit numbers work best, and then I'll probably make the realistic numbers match that after the units have been placed.

 

[Steph]

Originally posted by Trip

Not sure about that yet. I think for ships it will be close to a 1:1 ratio, at least for large boats.

For land units, I'm not quite sure yet. Rough figures right now would be each unit represents ~2,000 infantry, ~1,000 cavalry and 20 cannons. I'll have to do some balancing though, to see what unit numbers work best, and then I'll probably make the realistic numbers match that after the units have been placed.

This means to invade Russia with Napoleon's 600 000 troops, you would neet 300 units (and this is a minimum)?

 

[Procifica]

I was thinking that too Steph...Napoleon frequently employed several hundred thousand men at once (the example of 1812, he also had 300,000+ in Spain, and more elsewhere).

Trip: I did give you a large list of country populations from about 4 different sources total.

 

[_Impreza_]

This looks like a great scenario. I was wondering i units will be named.

 

[Jon Shafer]

Originally posted by Procifica
I was thinking that too Steph...Napoleon frequently employed several hundred thousand men at once (the example of 1812, he also had 300,000+ in Spain, and more elsewhere).

Trip: I did give you a large list of country populations from about 4 different sources total.

Like I said, I will placing units first, and determining how many men are in each unit later. So no, don't plan on seeing 300 French units going into Russia. Maybe 100 though.

 

[Jon Shafer]

Originally posted by _Impreza_
This looks like a great scenario. I was wondering i units will be named.

If I can find a good way to divide them, and a solid OOB, then that's what I plan on.

 

[_Impreza_]

If i can help you i will be pleased to.

 

[Jon Shafer]

Every bit helps.

Right now I'm balancing the city and nation sizes, and then I'll be placing units. Not much work left to do after that.

 

[_Impreza_]

There is always much to do with a scenario. Make sure roads etc are accurate, the right valour for units, new units, ship names, unit names, leaderheads, recources, buildings etc etc.
I will be happy to help

 

[Procifica]

Quote: There is always much to do with a scenario. Make sure roads etc are accurate, the right valour for units, new units, ship names, unit names, leaderheads, recources, buildings etc etc.
I will be happy to help

I agree with you here Impreza, a scenario can always be improved and made better.

 

[Johann MacLeod]

i hope this secenario comes out soon. or that it hasn't been forgotten