Seedships

[GeoModder]

And what about that quest about augmented? Anyone have any thoughts about how that could happen?

Depends whether or not FTL is a thing as a space propulsion system in BE. Or else the 'augmented' landed on another planet or moon in the same star system.

 

[KrikkitTwo]

Depends whether or not FTL is a thing as a space propulsion system in BE. Or else the 'augmented' landed on another planet or moon in the same star system.

Well significant FTL isn't really, the journey takes 300-400 years

 

[GeoModder]

Well significant FTL isn't really, the journey takes 300-400 years

Perhaps FTL only works through waypoints (like collapsars in the Forever War novel), or only 10x speed of light, which would still need 3 centuries to go out a 'mere' 3000 light years.

But yes, I as well go out from the assumption FTL isn't a thing humanity has mastered around AD 2210-2230 (roughly the timeframe of the first Seeding wave).

 

[L4Psha]

Depends whether or not FTL is a thing as a space propulsion system in BE. Or else the 'augmented' landed on another planet or moon in the same star system.

I don't think that they would land on another planet. They should can analyse thorougly planet on wich they would land. And if they would select, for example, between erath and mars, they definetly would select earth. The difference may be smaller, but the idea is the same.

And, yes, they definetly don't have a FTL.

 

[GeoModder]

I don't think that they would land on another planet. They should can analyse thorougly planet on wich they would land. And if they would select, for example, between erath and mars, they definetly would select earth. The difference may be smaller, but the idea is the same.

There are several reasons a colony vessel might wind up on the less habitable body of a star system. For starters, the target world was selected on Earth, with likely not too accurate or only basic info about it. This info was obtained over interstellar distances by either probes going there first (unlikely except for the nearest stars) or good old telescopes in Earth or near-Earth orbit. A misevaluation could have an expedition going out there with no means to hop to a more promising world in the same star system if the target at arrival turned out to be too inhospatible. Or conditions on the target could have become worse after arrival (ecological disaster for instance).

 

[L4Psha]

I think, if the ship had enough fuel to accelerate and then to decelerate on the way to the other star it must have an extra fuel to maneuver inside system. It would be wise to have it, because amount which would be needed for this will be much smaller, compare to the amount that would be needed for the journey.

Only thing that could be, i think, is that they landed there because they had no other choise and in hope that they would somehow refill seedship, board on it again and fly away. But how any years it would take? They must produce fuel in their hostile eniviroment, then load enough fuel (thousands of tons) to the orbit and then board on the ship. And that wasn't easy to do on Earth. And add the time of their second trip. They should land closer to the end of a game in the best case.

 

[Meyerm]

I've always wondered about the ship myself. The pod that lands to set up the first city can't be the whole ship. It must detach and land, leaving the rest in orbit. But what becomes of it then? I would imagine it being too valuable to abandon or scrap for resources.

 

[L4Psha]

Yes. And in civilopedia it is said that ship is "cannibalized" by colonists. But it definetly stays on the orbit. So they what, deorbit it, then it crashes, and they take whatever remains? If it still can be used after that. Maybe there is another types of ships, that can land on their own.

And the ships that always shown in videos, cannot carry such landing pod. Because it should be rather big, and it definetly would be seen on a hull of a ship. As i suggested earlier, that, maybe, there can be not just one pod, but in animation they are represented just by one. Just like colonists in CivV.

 

[GeoModder]

Hence I maintain the 'augmented' came from a nearby world, at most from the binary of a star system.

 

[L4Psha]

But why did they choose worse planet? They must know that there is another planet somehow suitable for them. They definetly should be able analyse air and surface of a planet. Or they what - oh, here is a planet, lets land on it, and don't bother that we probably can die there.

Of course developers probably don't thought so much about details of that quest, but i hope that there is something that could be done with it.

 

[KrikkitTwo]

But why did they choose worse planet? They must know that there is another planet somehow suitable for them. They definetly should be able analyse air and surface of a planet. Or they what - oh, here is a planet, lets land on it, and don't bother that we probably can die there.

Of course developers probably don't thought so much about details of that quest, but i hope that there is something that could be done with it.

Well the world could have been technically 'habitable' but provided all sorts of difficulties.

After all, Planet isn't trully habitable either, your units all have breathing equipment.

 

[Galgus]

But why did they choose worse planet? They must know that there is another planet somehow suitable for them. They definetly should be able analyse air and surface of a planet. Or they what - oh, here is a planet, lets land on it, and don't bother that we probably can die there.

Of course developers probably don't thought so much about details of that quest, but i hope that there is something that could be done with it.

It's quite possible that they did not know of all of the difficulties that would await them there.

Remember that the seeding planets are extremely far away.

 

[Ryika]

Well the world could have been technically 'habitable' but provided all sorts of difficulties.

After all, Planet isn't trully habitable either, your units all have breathing equipment.

OffTopic: Your next post is 10.000, make it count.

OnTopic: I don't think it's hard to imagine that out of all the seed ships that were sent, some just made bad decision about where to go to. Or maybe had problems on the way that forced them to go somewhere else. Or maybe the planet changed during the journey. Or a ton of other reasons.

 

[GeoModder]

But why did they choose worse planet? They must know that there is another planet somehow suitable for them.

They went to a world which looked promising to them and their sponsor. Besides, perhaps they choose the less promising option because of that. Less chance for unwanted other colonies on 'their' world since they assumed the more promising candidate world would attract all the other vessels sent to this star system.

 

[Zenstrive]

maybe the augmenteds are from the later colonists, 200 year since the last seedship launched from Earth-space, and then make seedship of their own that travel to the planet with speed faster than the last seedship and caught on, but landed badly due to breakdown in their ship caused by the immature advanced FTL drive they use.

 

[L4Psha]

Just what to ask another question and don't want to create another thread for that.
Is the planet's air suppose to be breathable? I know they all in protective suits, but they maybe needed just to protect against enviroment hazards. It's seems extremely hard to live their whole lives on such planet. And is it even possible to prosper there in such conditions?

 

[Doviello]

I think, by default, the air is not breathable, at least within miasma if definitely isn't. In RT, the meteor crater marvel quest describes that the chemical elements brought by the meteor, when mixed with the planet atmosphere, creates breathable air, so studying the craters and collecting samples will greatly increase your production.

I think purity keep humans foreign to the planet, maybe except within terrascapes, that's why this affinity focus on that improvement, as well as domes.

Harmony, on the other hand, goes crazy on the gene modifications. I love this fan art:

Spoiler :

Supremacy just doesn't care

 

[GeoModder]

Nice fanart.

Even if the air is breathable at arrival, the local micro/bacterial lifeforms could well be lethal to humans, so protection is in order.

 

[poom3619]

Just what to ask another question and don't want to create another thread for that.
Is the planet's air suppose to be breathable? I know they all in protective suits, but they maybe needed just to protect against enviroment hazards. It's seems extremely hard to live their whole lives on such planet. And is it even possible to prosper there in such conditions?

I wonder what life was like on Earth when the whole atmosphere was still breathable.
— Unattributed personal log fragment, "Seeding Departure" (accompanies Harmony level 1)

Probably not.