SGL / MGL question

[ALA Gator]

I am playing C3C. I just received my first SGL last night. First, SGL’s can rush great wonders correct? If so I am going to hold onto him for ~ 8 turns until I get economics and build Smith’s Trading Co.

I am also involved in a war. 2nd question, if I have an SGL can I still get MGL’s?

 

[Skibatized]

Yeah, SGL's are produced when a civ is done researching a technology before anyone, its like a 3% chance you get SGL I think if you're scientific you get a 5% chance. MGL's are produced when elite units succesfuly win a battle. I dont know the % for that one but you can get a MGL when you have a SGL, but you can only get 1 MGL per every 4 cities = ) and.. umm... you should try to get like J.S Bach Cathedral or the Shakespear Theatre instead of the Smith Trading... but thats My opinion...

 

[Tone]

I am also involved in a war. 2nd question, if I have an SGL can I still get MGL’s?

To correct the post above the quick answer is no.

The longer answer is if you have an unused leader, then you cannot get an MGL from elite attacks but you can still get additional SGLs from research projects. when they introduced the idea of getting leaders from research. I guess they forgot (or maybe just decided not to) install the same check for an existing leader that is made after an elite unit victory.

Edit: @Skibatized: For the record, the odds of an elite win producing an MGL are 1/16 from attacking and 1/32 from defending. If you have built the Heroic epic, these odds are reduced to 1/12 and 1/24 respectively. (Also are you getting confused with the limit on how many MGLs you can get and the number of armies you can have? You can never have more than one MGL in the game at any one time. You need four cities to support each army though.)

 

[Skibatized]

To correct the post above the quick answer is no.

The longer answer is if you have an unused leader, then you cannot get an MGL from elite attacks but you can still get additional SGLs from research projects. when they introduced the idea of getting leaders from research. I guess they forgot (or maybe just decided not to) install the same check for an existing leader that is made after an elite unit victory.

Edit: @Skibatized: For the record, the odds of an elite win producing an MGL are 1/16 from attacking and 1/32 from defending. If you have built the Heroic epic, these odds are reduced to 1/12 and 1/24 respectively. (Also are you getting confused with the limit on how many MGLs you can get and the number of armies you can have? You can never have more than one MGL in the game at any one time. You need four cities to support each army though.)

Yeah dude you are like so totaly 1337 man thanks for correcting me

 

[ALA Gator]

Ok. Thanks. I guess I will hold my elites back until after I use the SGL. It is convenient anyway because I only have 2 or 3 elites now anyway.

BTW I am only 3 turns from Bachs thanks to a prebuild and GA. I should have the Sumerians pretty well Whupped by then.

 

[ALA Gator]

Yeah dude you are like so totaly 1337 man thanks for correcting me

1337?

 

[Tone]

LEET?

 

[Headbanger]

Actually, smith's trading co. pays for harbours, markets, airports and banks, so i'd go for it. On ov my favourite wonders.

 

[Skibatized]

Actually, smith's trading co. pays for harbours, markets, airports and banks, so i'd go for it. On ov my favourite wonders.

Oh, sorry, but I dont need commerce, I get about 1,300+ gold per turn, by the time this wonder is available

I really need happyness though, way more important than commerce IMO,

But it's up to you MANG

 

[Nergal]

Depends on the situation, but I like Smiths .. its nice seeing that bonus in commerce when it kicks in.
Just had a funny though, which must be SGL related. I was playing a game as the Ottomans, I still am. The Sumerians built Artemis in nothing flat, I think I had about 4 towns out, and they couldnt have had much more. I was so far off polyethism it seemed impossible. The only way I can see it happening is if they popped mysticism and poly out of huts, then got an SGL and rushed it. Damn the RNG!!!!!