SGOTM 01 - Rat Pack

[ThERat]

I don't think calendar is crappy, but even if that's the case, we have to get back into the tech game. Look how far we are behind...we need to catch up. We might even miss the GL, which would be a pity.

by the way, we might want to run a priest once we have a temple so that we can build the shrine

 

[Tatran]

The disillusion : Gandhi has also Literature,50% wonder bonus + Monarchy
level bonus and maybe early starting turns.
The only reason to build the Great Library is to get some cash,because
I really don't think we have a chance to finish it before Gandhi.

Btw,the Temple of Solomon is already in St. Petersburg.

 

[acidsatyr]

ok got it 10

 

[Greebley]

[Off topic.
I couldn't get rid of Greebley's creative works above Giza and Byblos.
Please tell me how to create and delete this.

Actually, they predated me and I would have gotten rid of them, but I've forgotten how.

Out of curiosity has anyone made a list of all the keyboard shortcuts in this game? Such a list would be very useful. There are a lot of odd/useful things you can do via a shortcut. Just recently I was wondering how to redirect units just built automatically to a given city and also couldn't remember.

 

[ThERat]

I would like to know about setting flags for new units as well.

I know how to get rid of those markers, though. Zoom all the way out and select delete and then remove those markers.

 

[acidsatyr]

Since you did all the fun part, I was stuck with uneventful set of turns.

-obviously, get peace and those techs from Cathy. She's still please with us.
-trade rice for pigs to Gandhi.
-Start cottage, start Gem mine.
-Thebes is building temple yet is 12/7 and has no library. Switch to library and micro so its done in 17. St. Pet. is building granary, yet it doesn't have any food nor lighthouse. We have 5 cities without jud. Transporting our maces with galleys is tedious but very doable. We should attack Cyrus soon, astro is so far away.
- Elephantine granary-> galley, it has no science only some production. Hire two scientists in Alexandria to get Col faster.
-Ask Catharine for Mono, she agrees, switch to Organized.
Rest of turns zzzzz
i didn’t move units in my last turn.
Cyrus demands Construction. No

I suggest- we plan to attack Cyrus even with Galleys.
Also, leave that scientist we should use for Philosophy.
We are ready to attack Cathy again I think.
Use that Galley to scout Cyrus.
I don't agree with some decisions we did but it's all in the spirit of SG.
I see Team One is leading but not by much, when we finish off cathy, and if we start war with Cyrus we should be there.

 

[ThERat]

niec turns, I especially agree with your MM. I looked at the save but was sure you would swap that temple as well. We need a monastery to spread our faith though.
Nice going to get mono from Cathy. before we redeclare on her, I would trade with her or demand techs, she is not going to survive much longer anyway.

our research rate looks atrocious at 30%, guess we need courts badly.

I also agree to prepare to attack Cyrus with galley since they are that close.

Once we have CoL, are we heading for CS or machinery first? Guess maces will help a ton to take on Cyrus.


Roster
Tatran
acidsatyr
knupp - up
TheRat
Till
Greebley

 

[acidsatyr]

i woudl go for CS first since it boost our reasearch by much and has greatest trading potential. Though i'm not sure if Ghnadi will trade anything for now.
We should get few galleys to transport Maces and catapults over to Ghandi's theritory, and then declare. Cyrus is toasted.

 

[Till]

I agree on attacking Cyrus, but do we really want to wait for maces? Civil Serivce is ~40 turns away at the current rate and Cyrus doesn't seem to have stronger defenses than Cathy had.
I think there is a decent chance to take at least one or two cities before macemen become necessary.

Edit: A Hindu missionary is being built in Heliopolis, yet our state religion is Judaism. An accident or a master plan i do not grasp?

 

[acidsatyr]

As long as we dont criple ourselves economicaly, we could attack. That's why i suggested waiting for CS.

 

[Tatran]

Edit: A Hindu missionary is being built in Heliopolis, yet our state religion is Judaism. An accident or a master plan i do not grasp?

No accident,Gandhi is Hindu,so my vote goes to a religion switch.
We can always start a war with Cyrus and instead of capturing cities
we can simply raze them and let Gandhi fill up the empty spaces.

 

[Tatran]

I know how to get rid of those markers, though. Zoom all the way out and select delete and then remove those markers.

I don't know what you mean,but ALT + S will insert and delete text on a tile.

 

[ThERat]

we need to get good relations with gandhi so he ultimately agrees on a permanent alliance. Would capturing and then gifting cities to him help us in that respect?

 

[Greebley]

I was playing a recent game where I got the option to give back cities to the previous owner. I did so, though and didn't see any bonus. I think giving cities would just go under the easy-to-maximize trade bonus.

It occurs to me that one of the hardest things with Ghandi is that we can't get the military coalition bonus by having him attack. For that reason If anyone attacks Ghandi we should instantly declare war on the person, that being the only way to get the military bonus.

Other than that, I think we agree to anything he asks for and switch religion to match his - I can't think of any other way to get a good bonus - Oh, I guess matching his favorite civics??

 

[ThERat]

knupp seems to be pretty busy these days, will slot in my turns tonight and if he posts, he can take it as a swap...

so, got it

 

[ThERat]

played 16 turns to even things out
got CoL and went for compass since nobody had that
traded CoL with Russia for lit
Novgorod had 3 revolts and Russia should be taken asap
unfortunately Gandhi got compass in between
went for CS after compass, though Gnadhi has that too. I feel we need to get caravels to find other and get back to the trading game
economy should get better now with more courts. I was pretty conservative on whipping, I think we whip too much, it hurts our economy

took Tarsus after declaring on Cyrus, gifted it to Gandhi
repeated the same with Susa, losing 2 units

we have +11/-2 relation with Gandhi now
Cyrus has currency, maybe we can extort it from him

on the last turn, Cyrus would make peace now
he would give us 210gold and 3gpt, but not currency
maybe we can press on to 1 more city, pillage along the way and then go for peace once our units are burned anyway

we need to keep on improving our economy

 

[ThERat]

Roster
Tatran
acidsatyr
knupp - up ??
TheRat - swap with knupp
Till
Greebley

 

[Tatran]

Took a look at the thERat's save.
We can bribe Gandhi to declare war on Catherine.
Maybe we should go for a phony war against her to
get those needed Military Alliance points/turns for a
Permanent Alliance.

 

[knupp715]

I've been busy.

Sorry for the delay. I've got it.

 

[knupp715]

I couldn't get to this game today and I'll be busy for most of tomorrow. Please skip me this round. Sorry.