SGOTM 03 - Geezers

Sam_Yeager · Feb 13, 2007

Hmmm. Did Dagnabit say he was going to be away for a bit? It doesn't look as though he's logged in since the end of January.

Thrallia · Feb 13, 2007

I didn't see anything saying that...should we skip him and move on to Htadus?

Sam_Yeager · Feb 13, 2007

Thrallia said:
I didn't see anything saying that...should we skip him and move on to Htadus?

Well it's past the 24 hours. Perhaps give him another couple of hours to post that he's 'got it' otherwise Htadus should take it IMO.

Sam_Yeager · Feb 14, 2007

Beginning to look like a tail end batting collapse here. :cry:

No sign of the captain either.

markh · Feb 14, 2007

The captain says Dagnabit is skipped and Htadus has 24 hours to grab it, otherwise I will take it.

Thrallia · Feb 14, 2007

hooray for the captain

Thrallia · Feb 14, 2007

bad news guys...I saw a post by da vinci in one of the CFR threads...that means Gypsy Kings is finished. the last save visible from them is in 1742, so they likely won between 1742 and 1770.

Htadus · Feb 15, 2007

Thrallia said:
bad news guys...I saw a post by da vinci in one of the CFR threads...that means Gypsy Kings is finished. the last save visible from them is in 1742, so they likely won between 1742 and 1770.

That is bad news indeed.

I just down loaded the save and can play immidiately. Once I look at the save I will post my thoughts.

Sam_Yeager · Feb 15, 2007

Thrallia said:
bad news guys...I saw a post by da vinci in one of the CFR threads...that means Gypsy Kings is finished. the last save visible from them is in 1742, so they likely won between 1742 and 1770.

It's not entirely surprising, although a disappointment. They've been stuck at that date for a while despite lots of discussion. Equally the date ties in with when we might have hoped to finish if Cyrus & Hatty weren't being such a pain.

Htadus · Feb 15, 2007

I just looked at the save and see that we have tanks en route to take out the last Arabian City and Issy is wasting good number of voting population. She may be in good terms with Vickey. But how good :evil:

?

It look like just continue doing what we are doing at the moment. We wont have enough units to take Sal for almost 8 turns. So if no one has any comments, I would like to keep this baby rolling and may be gifting the select few.

Sam_Yeager · Feb 15, 2007

Htadus said:
It look like just continue doing what we are doing at the moment. We wont have enough units to take Sal for almost 8 turns. So if no one has any comments, I would like to keep this baby rolling and may be gifting the select few.

We have some troops healing in Medina. Can't remember off the top of my head whether they are enough to take Mecca without waiting for reinforcements. The troops in transports were more in preparation for the likely attack on Kublai.

Btw we should try and get some research done. Maybe not @ 100% but we should be able to afford at least 50% and still have enough dosh for cash rushing.

Htadus · Feb 16, 2007

Well Team. I ruined our plans. We got a UN Victory in 1835 AD.

1830 AD (Turn 440) Set Science to 40% at -25gpt. Computers in 9 turns. Mecca is defended by 7 inf and 1 arti units. We will need the tanks.
IBT: Gen Sec Vote come up.

1831 AD (Turn 441) We have GE Eifle. Too bad we can not build the tower. Talked to all but 2 civs about Kahn and found no body is fond of him. Setting Paris as invation staging point.
IBT: Hattie come asking to trade Fasism +50g for Industrialism.

1832 AD (Turn 442) Did some shameless gifting of available resources to Hatty, Vickey, Cyrius, Mansa and Washington. Got excited for a moment thinking we can have gunships but no flight. Old Saria has a defense of 2 inf, 2 SAM, Arti and a Cav. Karakorum has 4 inf, arti and a SAM. Rushed bunch of units.
IBT:Zzz

1833 AD (Turn 443) Troop movements. Used Eifle to rush Pentagon in cap.
IBT:Zzz

1834 AD (Turn 444) Landed troops in Arabia and Dowed against Kahn and landed forces to take Old Saria. Turn on grid and went to white screen. Waited over an hour and the game came on, saved and exited. restarted.
IBT:Arti in Old Saria attacked the stack and died. we lost a city to kahn. Vote for UN Vic.

1835 AD (Turn 445) Sal is gone. Old Saria held.
IBT:We won.

1836 AD (Turn 446) I had to take Old Saria.

Spoiler :

Save

http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/civ4sgotm3/Geezers_SG003_AD1836_01.Civ4SavedGame

Htadus · Feb 16, 2007

Sorry I got carried away with the font. This is one of 2 victories I have in my hall of fame and one of 3 games I completed.

20/20: I am guessing the team that won sooner did it by going the domination route from get go. This was an eye opener for many of the Civ4 secrets. I did not think I would be able to play this turn set the way my computer was acting up and my girl was born two days ago. But I am thrilled that I got to see to the end. Thank you for all for your bits of wisdom. Oh btw I did figure out why 100% and 0% science is a good idea when there are multipliers involve.

markh · Feb 16, 2007

Great news, Htadus ! Congratulations for the birth of your daughter ! [party]

Nice game, guys. Learned a lot again and thank you all for the relaxed and friendly discussions. It was great fun to play in this team. :goodjob:

Sam_Yeager · Feb 16, 2007

Htadus said:
Well Team. I ruined our plans. We got a UN Victory in 1835 AD.
<snip>
IBT:We won.

1836 AD (Turn 446) I had to take Old Saria.

Yeah! Hallelujah! Interesting to note that Hatty never did vote for us. Grumble, grumble

Btw for those who haven't participated in SGOTMs before. We can look at the other threads. It's best not to post in threads of those who haven't finished as a general rule. Definitely don't post spoiler info in their threads. :eek:

As Thrallia noticed, posting in threads of those who have finished can be spotted by teams who haven't finished but that's up to you.

Sam_Yeager · Feb 16, 2007

@Htadus - Any chance that you can post the save before victory so that I can add the result to my my hall of fame?

EDIT: Congrats on the daughter. :king:

Sam_Yeager · Feb 16, 2007

Third post. :lol:

This post saved me having to hunt all the other threads.

I think Da Vinci is overlooking the fact that there have been so many games that have stalled that it's difficult to judge whether a team has finished or not.

Thrallia · Feb 16, 2007

congrats Htadus for your daughter!

congrats to the team for a great, educational, and most importantly, FUN game!

I'm sorry to see you go Simon

Perhaps later down the road you'll find time for us again in tthe midst of your Space Race victories in the GOTMs.

As for everyone else, I look forward to playing the SGOTM4-W with any of you who own Warlords, Sam and mark already signed up, and I hope we all have time to get together for the next vanilla one as well.

DynamicSpirit · Feb 16, 2007

Oh cool! Well done Htadus and congrats from me on your daughter too! Double celebration!

Out of interest, do you have the voting figures for the winning UN vote. I'd be curious to see what factor finally pushed us over the edge. Was it purely growth in our population from conquering or did someone new vote for us?

I agree btw with Htadus about the early domination thing. Not yet looked at the other team threads, but I'm guessing from Peanut's score graph that they went on the warpath almost from the start. I guess with hindsight we should've carried on conquering instead of having our extended peace after we'd cut Mao down to size but - hey, you live and learn. With fewer starting civs I'm sure it would've been a lot easier to win a diplo game mostly by genuine diplomacy but as it turned out there were just too many civs on our map to do that. It was a fun game anyway! I thought we worked really well as a team - lots of discussions, everyone contributing opinions, and then playing turnsets roughly according to the consensus.

@Thrallia: Thanks, yeah I'll be sorry not to be there for the next SGOTM [1]. Maybe I'll check in and lurk unseen in your team thread occasionally

At least if I'm not playing I'll have the fun of looking at your thread then looking at other teams' threads and saying to myself 'ha! team X is doing that wrong '

[1] But not as sorry as I probably would be if I did the next SGOTM and then left lots of other things in my life undone

Sam_Yeager · Feb 16, 2007

I've only skimmed some of the threads. However it appears that some of the teams built the UN, gifted the city to the Civ they wanted as opposition and kept all their good buddies to vote for them. :eek:

I knew that the Civ that built the UN was automatically included but I didn't realise that the Civ that owned the UN was automatically included. If it does indeed work like that then we could have done that with Toku and probably knocked ~150 years off our eventual end date. :cry:

Note: I haven't read the threads in detail so I may have the mechanics of this ploy wrong.

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