SGOTM 05 Maintenance Thread

[da_Vinci]

After reading about dificulties with upgrading and being able to open the SGOTM 05 save, who has had success with this? Are the problems isolated or rather common? In particular, anyone successfully upgraded using BtS in a Vista system (which is what I will be trying tonight ... or not, if no one has had success )

dV

 

[remconius]

I upgraded with no problem, but did it using the in game update feature before I received BtS. I am using vista and was able to open the save.

Do note that the SGOTM5 needs a special HOF Mod called 1.74.SGOTM5

 

[Gyathaar]

I've Vanilla patched to 1.74 with my BtS disk and it cannot open the save. My build version is 1.7.4.0 from May 17, my mates who used direct CivIV patch to build 1.6.1.1841 of March 30 2006 can load it. What to do?

I used the Vanilla patch 1.74 from BtS disc too.. so it should not have anything to do with that...

I have seen many people able tp open the save in the team threads, so cant imagine it is something with my install.

 

[da_Vinci]

I upgraded with no problem, but did it using the in game update feature before I received BtS. I am using vista and was able to open the save.

Do note that the SGOTM5 needs a special HOF Mod called 1.74.SGOTM5

So no problems with direct X, as others seem to be having? ( ... see the latest patches thread:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=232115)

Since I am still limping along with dial-up I figured that BtS would be a less painful way to get the updates, so hope that works.

By the way, did you do a dual install, and if so, how is that working?

dV

 

[Thrallia]

Vista comes with DirectX10, so you shouldn't have any issues with directX problems, I would imagine.

 

[da_Vinci]

Vista comes with DirectX10, so you shouldn't have any issues with directX problems, I would imagine.

One would think so, wouldn't one? But this thread http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=232577 seems to suggest otherwise ...

If the BtS install should ask me if I want to "update" directX, should I say yes or no? Or is it smart enough to know that Vista has a later version? Or does the later version in fact not work with the patches ...

Addendum: I suppose I should ask what version of directX is on the BtS disk, assuming that one is ...

dV

 

[Thrallia]

interesting how many people in those threads blame Firaxis for their computer not being up to date...

 

[da_Vinci]

interesting how many people in those threads blame Firaxis for their computer not being up to date...

Sure, but back to the question at hand ...

Or does the later version [of direct X] in fact not work with the patches ...

Which is what this post seems to be saying: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=5721536&postcount=9
What do you make of this?

dV

 

[Gyathaar]

One would think so, wouldn't one? But this thread http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=232577 seems to suggest otherwise ...

If the BtS install should ask me if I want to "update" directX, should I say yes or no? Or is it smart enough to know that Vista has a later version? Or does the later version in fact not work with the patches ...

Addendum: I suppose I should ask what version of directX is on the BtS disk, assuming that one is ...

dV

Vista has both directx10 and directx9 .. the patches and BtS requires a newer version of dx9 than what comes installed by default in vista.. so you will have to update dx9 even if you run vista and have dx10

 

[da_Vinci]

Vista has both directx10 and directx9 .. the patches and BtS requires a newer version of dx9 than what comes installed by default in vista.. so you will have to update dx9 even if you run vista and have dx10

That explains a lot ... and who would have expected that (at least among non programming types like me). But let's get a bit more precise ...

The Vista version of dx9 apparently runs just fine for 1.61 and 2.08.

Is it just BtS that needs the higher version of dX9, or is it the 1.74 and 2.13 patches that need it as well, even without BtS? Seems like the latter, based on problems with upgrades regardless of BtS.

Should I assume that BtS install will update the dX9 in Vista automatically? Or should I do an update of dX9 on the web (or by exploring the BtS disk)before I install BtS? Or does it matter?

dV

 

[AlanH]

New Team is now the Misfits...
Could you please update that please AlanH.. Thanks..

~fr

Thx for your feedback.

Sorry for the delay, I was out all day and this evening. I've updated your team name in the Team Lists, and changed the thread name, with a reminder of what it used to be for any late arrivals. Gyathaar will upload your start file soon, and then you'll be good to go.

 

[Gyathaar]

Is it just BtS that needs the higher version of dX9, or is it the 1.74 and 2.13 patches that need it as well, even without BtS? Seems like the latter, based on problems with upgrades regardless of BtS.

Should I assume that BtS install will update the dX9 in Vista automatically? Or should I do an update of dX9 on the web (or by exploring the BtS disk)before I install BtS? Or does it matter?

dV

the new vanilla and warlords patches require it too

BtS comes with the directx9.0c upgrades on the disk, found in the DirectX9 folder.. the installer should automatically run it.. but I think I have seen a couple reports about it not installing automatically for them.. you can just browse into the dir manually thou and launch the dxsetup.exe thou.. no need to download if you have the BtS disk

 

[rrau]

@rrau - somewhere I read that you have the 1.74.SGOTM5 mod installed in both the My Games path and the Program Files\Firaxis path. Delete it from the My Games path before doing anything else. Then right click on the Firaxis folder and open the properties dialog box, go to the Security tab and make sure that the Users group has all the permissions in the Permissions box checked. You will need to have Administrator privileges to make those changes. It will take a bit of time for the machine to process all those files so be patient.

Once you do those two things you should be good to go.

Bede gave me this solution. I was crashing my game before I followed these instructions. It worked like a charm.

 

[Kulko]

@ daVinci we have at least 3 signing ins who have been able to open the save. For me, I upgraded through the ingame Menu, then run into the DX problem, read the solution, implemented it and now everything seems to work just fine.

 

[Lexad]

Well, my teammmates who patched Vanilla and Warlords not from BtS disk also got no problems, so I'll just unistall and redo it from scratch. However, having THAT different patch builds called the same does not compliment Firaxis the least.

 

[Thrallia]

Interesting, because nearly every complaint I've seen came from patching without BtS...haven't seen anyone complain from the BtS patches...and usually the problem is DirectX versions, not the actual patches.

 

[Lexad]

I have latest DirectX9.0c and .NET 3.0, it shouldn't be the reason. And I wasn't the only one with such problem on civru.com forums.

Ok, I'll erinstall and check out whether patching directly would help.

 

[dutchfire]

I've got a dual-install without BtS in Windows XP, had the DirectX problem but after downloading the newest directX, everything worked.

 

[Bede]

@Gyathaar - I tried setting up a Warlords HoF game and even with Lock Modifeid Assets checked I got the "Not valid for HoF play. Assets not original. Contact HoF staff"

And I can"t load an SG save using the HoF 2.08.004 mod.

The only thing that has changed is that I installed the 1.74 patch and the HoF-1.74.001 mod and the HoF-1.74.SGOTM5 mods for Vanilla. Warlords remains unpatched, no mods other than the HoF-2.08.004 and the standard Warlords mods are in the Mods folder.

This all started when I set up to play the SGOTM5.

Any thoughts other than uninstall everything and start over?

 

[AlanH]

Warlords relies Civ4 vanilla assets as well as its own set. It does not stand alone, which is why it lives inside the Civ4 folder in the Program Files path. So if you have updated vanilla assets I would guess Warlords is calculating check sums for (1.74 assets + 2.08 assets), and complaining that they are not the same as (1.61 assets + 2.08 assets).

If you want to play Warlords 2.08 locked games you need a complete 1.61 + 2.08 set of program files.