SGOTM 05 Maintenance Thread
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Mauer
Pompous Noble
Not sure if anyone else is having this problem, but I loaded up the 1.74 SGOTM5 HOF MOD, and then when I tried to load the save I got the following message:
The save file you have selected is protected to ensure that the assets in your mod folder have not been changed.
If you know what the problem might be, please speak slowly and as if to a 5 year old
Thanks in advance.
The save file you have selected is protected to ensure that the assets in your mod folder have not been changed.
If you know what the problem might be, please speak slowly and as if to a 5 year old
Thanks in advance.
Possible reasons:
1. You have CivScale installed. If so, reset it to default values.
2. You have not upgraded your Civ4 to version 1.74. If so, please do so.
3. Are you sure you installed the SGOTM5 mod correctly? Is it in the Mods folder in your Program Files path, and does its name display in the top right corner of the main menu screen when it is loaded? If not, you need to reinstall the mod correctly.
4. You have put one or more modified files in your Civ4 installation, in the Assets folder or its subfolders. If so you will need to remove the offending files, or reinstall and repatch a clean copy of Civ4 and add in the SGOTM 5 mod.
1. You have CivScale installed. If so, reset it to default values.
2. You have not upgraded your Civ4 to version 1.74. If so, please do so.
3. Are you sure you installed the SGOTM5 mod correctly? Is it in the Mods folder in your Program Files path, and does its name display in the top right corner of the main menu screen when it is loaded? If not, you need to reinstall the mod correctly.
4. You have put one or more modified files in your Civ4 installation, in the Assets folder or its subfolders. If so you will need to remove the offending files, or reinstall and repatch a clean copy of Civ4 and add in the SGOTM 5 mod.
Mauer
Pompous Noble
No idea what CivScale is.
patched
It's in the Mods folder, and displays the 1.74 mod in the upper right.
I looked in there and didn't see anything in the folder or subfolders.
I really do apologize for the trouble
The software does a check sum across all the key files in the Assets folder. If that check sum doesn't match the one that was calculated when Gyathaar created the start save then it pops up the error you have seen. Other players have loaded the start files successfully, including players in your team, so it has to be something non-standard in your Civ4 installation.
If you can't think of anything you have done to change it, I can only suggest re-installing and repatching Civ4 to version 1.74. If you just add back the SGOTM mod first and try loading the start file, then it should work. If you subsequently add in any other mods you use, and it stops working, then you will know what caused the problem.
If you can't think of anything you have done to change it, I can only suggest re-installing and repatching Civ4 to version 1.74. If you just add back the SGOTM mod first and try loading the start file, then it should work. If you subsequently add in any other mods you use, and it stops working, then you will know what caused the problem.
da_Vinci
Gypsy Prince
Here is a new issue:
My dual install went well, game loads, etc. But if I open the option screen, the exit button won't exit, and I am dead in the water. I can change the options, but can't get back to the game. Have to minimize Civ and kill it in task manager.
Same issue in all the new mods: HOF 1.74.001, HOF 2.13.001 and the SGOTM 05 mod. NOT a problem in the unmodded installs of 1.74 or 2.13. Maybe something to do with the new HOF mods?
Not fixed after a reboot.
If it is not just me (windows vista ultimate), then this may cause a lot of reloads. If one always saves before going to options, that is at least a workaround.
Anyone else having this problem?
BTW, has the new install reset our autosaves to every 4 turns? If so, should remind all to reset to every turn.
dV
My dual install went well, game loads, etc. But if I open the option screen, the exit button won't exit, and I am dead in the water. I can change the options, but can't get back to the game. Have to minimize Civ and kill it in task manager.
Same issue in all the new mods: HOF 1.74.001, HOF 2.13.001 and the SGOTM 05 mod. NOT a problem in the unmodded installs of 1.74 or 2.13. Maybe something to do with the new HOF mods?
Not fixed after a reboot.
If it is not just me (windows vista ultimate), then this may cause a lot of reloads. If one always saves before going to options, that is at least a workaround.
Anyone else having this problem?
BTW, has the new install reset our autosaves to every 4 turns? If so, should remind all to reset to every turn.
dV
You are the first person to mention it as far as I know, and several teams have already submitted turn sets with no signs of multiple sessions.
If this is the case, you've just done it.
remconius
Deity
I had the same problem.
I dont recall exactly how I got round it. It was something to do with changing some settings (like resolution) without the mod, then loading the mod and changing the HOF settings OR changing one HOF setting at time, exiting after each one.
At some point I also did a new install, installed only the 1.74 patch and then the mod and the sgotm5 mod.
One of these solved it for me.
Sam_Yeager
Another Original Geezer
My autosave frequency wasn't reset. Mind you I updated vanilla & warlords through the in-game patch as my delivery of BTS was delayed. I also run Win XP in case that made a difference.
As an aside it's annoying that the .ini file for BTS doesn't include all the option values. Maybe so that we have to keep seeing those wretched start movies all the time?
da_Vinci
Gypsy Prince
Are you suggesting that when you did the new install and did not install the 2.13 warlords patch, that seemed to help? If so, it might isolate the issue to warlords patch or mod?
Are you running vista or XP? Maybe its a vista issue?
I still have to check if the changed settings will lock in after I kill the game in task manager (may well not be the case). I guess I could set up the settings as I want them in unmodded, close the game, then open with mod, and just remember never to go into options.
dV
I think that patching+new mod resets all your preferences and options. So it might be worthwile to have a good look at the option screens to see if everything is how you like it. Examples of things you need to reset include graphics level, HOF mod specials and autosave settings.
Mighty Dwaarf
Ginger Beast
I too had the same problem as Mauer?? I then moved the MOD from my documents etc location to in the program files mod folder and now loads ok.
remconius
Deity
I am running vista. I got the update just before BtS, just used the ingame download. Afterwards, I uninstalled civilization IV (not warlords). Reinstalled and picked up the 1.74 patch from the patch folder and ran it. Then the mod and it was fine.
Two things you need to do to make this lash up work properly in Vista.
And you need to tell me whether or not you have multiple user accounts on the machine before I can give you detailed directions
Basically you need to enable File Sharing on the Civilization 4 root folder, then change the User permissions on that folder. The problem you are having springs from the paranoid manner in which Vista sets permissions on directories containing executables and files which are opened and written to during the game operation.
Interesting! Can you uninstall Civ4 without uninstalling Warlords? I understood Warlords was an add-on to Civ4, and depended on Civ4 data files. It lives inside the Civ4 parent folder, and so either it dies when the Civ4 folder is killed during uninstallation, or the uninstaller leaves some bits of Civ4 in place. Either way, after uninstalling Civ4 you should not be able to run Warlords.
da_Vinci
Gypsy Prince
On closer look, not just the exit button in the option screen does not work, but the reset defaults button does not work either. I can change the option settings (check and uncheck boxes).
Are you referring to the fact that some folders live in C:\Program Files(x86)\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 and others live in Owner\Documents\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 ?
If so, I am curious as to why that never caused a problem with 1.61 or 2.08 and all of their mods, and does not cause a problem with unmodded 1.74 or 2.13? It only seems to cause a problem, at least for me, in the two new HOF mods, and the SGOTM 05 mod (which I assume is based on the HOF mod).
Anyway, only one user account (I have never set up any others) ... there is an owner folder and a public folder. It is Vista Ultimate, and I also run Norton Internet Security.
remconius says he fixed it with some series of reinstalls ... does that make sense? Maybe he had a different problem?
Anyway I do appreciate the help!
I'll post this in parallel in HOF support so both audiences can benefit.
dV
First things first - turn off Norton whenever you install a Civ 4 game, expansion or Mod.
These instructions apply to Windows Vista.
For a single user machine the process is pretty straightforward as there is no need to implement file shares.
It goes like this
Right Click on the Firaxis Games directory in the C:\Program Files path and select the Properties option. In the first tab labeled "General" are two checkboxes at the bottom - one is labeled Read Only and should be greyed. Clear it so the check box is empty, then click the Apply button. A dialog box with two radio buttons will appear, select the all folders, all subfolders and all files button. Click okay and and
This will take a while as the machine processes all those files.
When that has finished in the same Properties dialog box click the security tab. In the scroll box labeled Group or user names you will find various names. Click on Users.
The scroll box at the bottom will show all Permissions assigned to the Users group for this set of files. If the permission do not include Full Control click the Edit button just above the scroll box. That opens another dialog box that allows you to change User Group permissions. Select the Users group in the upper scroll box and then check the Full Control check box in the lower scroll box. Click Apply. Get some more
You should be good to go.
For a Vista OS with multiple User accounts you also need to set up Sharing on the Firaxis Directory in the Program Files path, the Civilization 4 directory and the Mods directory and the HoF Mod directory.
The paranoid nature of Vista's handling of directories with executables and dyanmic files like the .py and .xml files make it necessary to jump through these hoops.
These instructions apply to Windows Vista.
For a single user machine the process is pretty straightforward as there is no need to implement file shares.
It goes like this
Right Click on the Firaxis Games directory in the C:\Program Files path and select the Properties option. In the first tab labeled "General" are two checkboxes at the bottom - one is labeled Read Only and should be greyed. Clear it so the check box is empty, then click the Apply button. A dialog box with two radio buttons will appear, select the all folders, all subfolders and all files button. Click okay and and
This will take a while as the machine processes all those files.
When that has finished in the same Properties dialog box click the security tab. In the scroll box labeled Group or user names you will find various names. Click on Users.
The scroll box at the bottom will show all Permissions assigned to the Users group for this set of files. If the permission do not include Full Control click the Edit button just above the scroll box. That opens another dialog box that allows you to change User Group permissions. Select the Users group in the upper scroll box and then check the Full Control check box in the lower scroll box. Click Apply. Get some more
You should be good to go.
For a Vista OS with multiple User accounts you also need to set up Sharing on the Firaxis Directory in the Program Files path, the Civilization 4 directory and the Mods directory and the HoF Mod directory.
The paranoid nature of Vista's handling of directories with executables and dyanmic files like the .py and .xml files make it necessary to jump through these hoops.
IMPORTANT: Victory Conditions
Conquest victory is disabled in the Windows start files. So if you find yourselves all alone on the map, with only the barbs for company, please upload your final save in the normal way, and contact me or Gyathaar. We can then verify that you have indeed achieved a Conquest victory.
This does NOT apply to the Mac Team. Instead, they will not be able to win a Diplomatic victory. This VC is disabled, as I could find no way to mod the Mac version of Civ4 to allow the barb team to give or receive votes.
Conquest victory is disabled in the Windows start files. So if you find yourselves all alone on the map, with only the barbs for company, please upload your final save in the normal way, and contact me or Gyathaar. We can then verify that you have indeed achieved a Conquest victory.
This does NOT apply to the Mac Team. Instead, they will not be able to win a Diplomatic victory. This VC is disabled, as I could find no way to mod the Mac version of Civ4 to allow the barb team to give or receive votes.
da_Vinci
Gypsy Prince
Imported from the HOF forum, where there is more discussion on this problem
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=229172
The exit button hang is fixed
Again, thanks for the help!
dV
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=229172
I had an easy time with my dual install, other than this exit button hang. Mine was a BtS install from disk, so patches installed easily. Might explain why a simplification of your advice seems to have worked, for now ...
What I did was to apply this to the HOF-1.74.001 folder in the mods folder in the program files path, rather than the whole firaxis games directory. I will have to do the same to warlords, and for each mod that I add as long as the bug continues. But it did go pretty fast! And I prefer minimalist solutions whenever I can get them.
The exit button hang is fixed
Again, thanks for the help!
dV
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