SGOTM 05 - Misfits

[cnwjr]

TS played. Lots of unit building. Highlights: Communism, Democracy, & Steam Engine researched. Railroad started.

Asoka has Destroyers!

Asoka has finished the Apollo program. Someone (Asoka) finished Broadway.

Alex destroyed. Lands pillaged before others could take them.

I have not yet started Scotland Yard. We also need to build up money before we get spies. With our slow research, do we continue much past Combustion? Or switch all commerce to gold & culture?

We are a few hundred points behind Asoka in total score right now and losing ground at 10-20/turn. Taking out his cities should correct that.

Two of Asoka's cultural cities (all around 16000) are on our hit list. Bangalore & Bombay.

I figure the next TS should finish all the required units for the 3 SoD and get them in position for the player after that. I would continue to build units, mostly canons.

We are getting free research on Combustion, Biology, Physics, Railroad, Artillery & Rocketry. One or more 'might' come in by the end of the game.

Next up: Piko

 

[marowaker]

With our slow research, do we continue much past Combustion? Or switch all commerce to gold & culture?

Well, it seems unlikely that we can keep up in the tech race, even though our units are unlikely to match up to tanks. Given that we need money for spies and culture for happiness, we should just rely on barb bleed.

Oh, and I can play the save again, since I fixed the problem that I had.

 

[Piko]

Well you wanna have this turn marrow? i wouldnt mind hitting asoka hehe

 

[marowaker]

Well you wanna have this turn marrow? i wouldnt mind hitting asoka hehe

Very well, I will do it as soon as I can.

EDIT:Save is up. Now much happened apart from Asoka get 3 castings done, Toku finishing the Kremlin and Izzy getting a GE

Most of the ships are at 3 points of Asoka's mainland. Others are probably on goto orders to the three points. Asoka also has industrialism (bragging about tanks and seeing a Marine onboard a transport.)

Have fun killing Asoka, or die trying

 

[Piko]

oh great hehehehe we stuffed hehe, well i will try tomorrow i guess *fingers crossed*

 

[cnwjr]

Just wait for the remainder of the troops to get in position. Move closer in a turn, and DoW and invade the next. Try to land and later keep to hills/woods/jungle for the defensive edge. Remember to bombard with the frigates. Keep the troops together. The only one not in the stack should be the one that just razed the city. Hopefully there will be enough troops to survive long enough to take out the cities. If not, we are out of luck. The only remaining possibility would be to take out Cyrus & Toku and hope Asoka doesn't launch. Fat chance!

 

[Piko]

SoD Composition:
5 Riflemen/Grenadier combo, 4 cavalry, 15 cannons = 24 units.
Plus 8 galleons & 6 frigates escort/bombardment

Well 3 SoD's i see nearing positions, shame they don't match the desired composition.

10 cannons, 3 gren/1 rifle, 4 cav in SoD 1

8 cannons, 6 gren, 7 cavalry in SoD 2.

15 cannons, 1 gren/1 rifle. 4 cavalry in SoD 3?

Not one of those stacks is equal to requested composition? ignoring that, they are not even balanced? = /. Since we are only building one more galleon in 3 turns I assume i'm using these SoD's as is.

In other words, wish me a lot of luck = P

 

[Piko]

OK i see other units ready to move out, gee, do i hold back for 5 turns? tough decision, i guess i do

 

[Piko]

ok guys, sorry about this, only did 10 turns.

Here is how it is. He has Mech Inf and Gunships. So i hit as soon as i saw a mech inf and let the other troups come in as backup.

Santiago we lost, got hammered, he practically wiped out our SoD before it could do anything.

What can i say umm.. was a slaughter... on 2 occasions an SoD was near destroyed before it could attack

However!! I took 3!! Including bangalore!! so he's taken a hit, there are some units left, after i hit a city i moved units back to ships to move them to the next city, seemed effective, however its mainly just cannons left, perhaps enough to take one more city.

Cyrus about to have a field day on our ex alex cities, one unit in each?? = / He has captured one alread. Ummm its going to be a long turn cnwjr, good luck, sorry i only did 10 turns, in a rush, but they took a while.

 

[marowaker]

He has Mech inf and gunships?!? , I am not sure we can fight that at all(If we had infantry, it might be possible but rifles?).

 

[cnwjr]

Well, at this point, I guess we lose. I haven't yet looked at the save, but from the comments and types of units we are facing, we have no realistic chance of stopping a launch or any other win Asoka wants to try for.

Question for the group. Play on? Or give up now and free our time for something else?

Edit: Just checked out the save quickly. I notice that Asoka also has fighters. Not too surprising. It looks like our entire invasion force has been lost or is about to be.

 

[marowaker]

Question for the group. Play on? Or give up now and free our time for something else?

As much as I hate to do it, I think we have to give up. I for one am certainly not capable of fighting when we are that far behind.

I think that we made many mistakes and two that I can see now are thinking raging barbs would kill everyone(meaning we should have made peace ASAP) and not going after Saladin first.

Anyway, what are the plans for SGOTM6? Shall we make this team a regular or shall the Misfits be doomed for one game only? I would like to play again.

 

[cnwjr]

Going on as a team depends pretty much on the difficulty level of the next SGOTM. As we are all low level players we will get squashed on anything more difficult than what we just got squashed on. I for one have no objections to continuing as a team, but it would be a futile exercise on anything more difficult than what we just did. I also need to schedule more time to play at higher levels on my own to adjust my skills to the difficulty.

Edit: Just checked - all SGOTM/WGOTM so far have been Standard/Epic/Monarch.

Also, I'd suggest we play on to a conclusion for this game, even though we no longer have any possible hope of winning. I'd like to have a finished game under our belts instead of an abandoned one. We no longer have to do much except build to defend and pray for peace. Once (if) we can get peace, we can have a builders paradise and put all units on hold. The game shouldn't take too much longer to play that way. If no one else wants to go on, I'll volunteer to press enter until a conclusion is reached.

 

[Piko]

I am actually ok at Monarch level, I have won cultural and space race, i'm not an aggressor however, or if i am, i tend to rely on being ahead in tech. I guess cultural may have been a go hehehe.

 

[cnwjr]

After we finish this one off, I want to see what others did with it. I personally have mostly played at lower levels as I haven't put a lot of time into playing the game. (gasp) I've won a game or two at prince and monarch, but am most comfortable at noble. I need to put a lot of time into getting up to speed at the higher level(s).

 

[Mastiff_of_Ar]

What we do is ask Alan to add one highly skilled guy to the team. I learned a few things this game, but I think if we'd had a guy like Cactus Pete, we'd all learn more. I don't even mind having a new guy with less skill, provided we have a "coach" type on board. Seem like a good idea?

I also agree we should finish... for better or worse. I'll push buttons, too.

 

[cnwjr]

Well, so far we have two votes to finish, one to quit, and one not specified... and a bunch of no shows.

I believe that I am up, though if Mastiff wants to take the next TS, that is fine with me. I won't be able to get to it until late tomorrow.

I would be happy to have a more advanced player as part of our group - even if just a non-playing adviser.

 

[Mastiff_of_Ar]

I can probably get some turns in. I need to download and see how bad things are... No chance of dragging in someone else against Asoka, I suppose.

 

[cnwjr]

Nope. The only other civ that is not on good terms with Asoka is Izzy. No luck there. We are effectively hated by everyone now. Our best relationships are with Izzy and Toku.

Unless someone sees a solution to our problems, it is mostly a matter of making peace with both Cyrus & Asoka, then doing whatever we feel good about doing before pressing enter.

 

[marowaker]

After reading everyone's posts, I would have to agree that we should finish the game, even if it is not very honourable(waiting for Asoka to win by space race). The only thing I want to do is finish off izzy . That would mean we kill 4 civs, which would make us feel better anyway.

I myself have won on Emporer, even if it is only one game. I would be happy enough on Monarch. A "coach" on the team sounds good(providing we continue).