I'm happy for it to go if that's the will of the people 
SGOTM 08 - Chokonuts
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Mighty Dwaarf
Ginger Beast
I'll give it another 24 to see if any of the others have an opinion.
The only other bit of advice I'd give re the war is waiting until the 2nd catatpult arrives before attacking (from memory it is just a turn away or so), the extra collateral will make it much easier.
cubbiesin08
I am Batman
I really don't care either way if we keep the city or not...I will let you guys decide that.
McArine
King
Hi, checking back in. RL has been really busy lately, but that has passed, so now I'm able to play again.
My comments: I'm not fond of the city resources, but I like the choke point.
I'd definitely wait for the second catapult. Maybe even for the third.
My comments: I'm not fond of the city resources, but I like the choke point.
I'd definitely wait for the second catapult. Maybe even for the third.
Mighty Dwaarf
Ginger Beast
Played ten
Firstly turned sci up to 70% COL 17 turns and held back initial assault until reinforcements arrive (T4). Moved Axe upto Bronze to attempt to pillage.
Found Nobamba defended by 2 CG1 archers.
Ulundi defended by 2 axes and an archer.
Lose 2 cats in initial attack but take Gungun at second turn. Razed.
Once recovered move towards Nobamba whilst pillaging axe completes his mission but is killed the next turn by shock promoted axe.
Lose one cat taking Nobamba. Move attacking army there to heal.
Complete Baray in Chokocentral. Currently building HG in central and Granary in elephantastic although no hammers currently in either. COL in 5 turns.
Shaka has reconnected horses and I didnt build the spear. We have 4 cats and 5 axes currently (at least one will be needed to cover Nobamba) I'd suggesting moving towards Ulundi with 4 axes and 4 cats if we disconnect horses or 3 axes and 4 cats if we dont.
Firstly turned sci up to 70% COL 17 turns and held back initial assault until reinforcements arrive (T4). Moved Axe upto Bronze to attempt to pillage.
Found Nobamba defended by 2 CG1 archers.
Ulundi defended by 2 axes and an archer.
Lose 2 cats in initial attack but take Gungun at second turn. Razed.
Once recovered move towards Nobamba whilst pillaging axe completes his mission but is killed the next turn by shock promoted axe.
Lose one cat taking Nobamba. Move attacking army there to heal.
Complete Baray in Chokocentral. Currently building HG in central and Granary in elephantastic although no hammers currently in either. COL in 5 turns.
Shaka has reconnected horses and I didnt build the spear. We have 4 cats and 5 axes currently (at least one will be needed to cover Nobamba) I'd suggesting moving towards Ulundi with 4 axes and 4 cats if we disconnect horses or 3 axes and 4 cats if we dont.
Good turns.
HG is good! I'd put Chokocentral on wonder duty from now actually. We'll need courthouses in Zulu lands.
The quicker we take down Shaka the better. I'd march straight there without disconnecting horses.
Aesthetics after CoL (opens many wonders)?
McArine, ngraner or cubbies is UP, I suppose.
HG is good! I'd put Chokocentral on wonder duty from now actually. We'll need courthouses in Zulu lands.
The quicker we take down Shaka the better. I'd march straight there without disconnecting horses.
Aesthetics after CoL (opens many wonders)?
McArine, ngraner or cubbies is UP, I suppose.
Mighty Dwaarf
Ginger Beast
Thinking on I would build one more axe or spear from elephantastic to use to cover any sneak attack. He still has a shock axe and a combat II axe near ulundi. I also think we need IW sooner rather than later to start cottaging the jungle. COL in 5 I think we are also 15ish turns of first G Person which will either be Priest or Scientist. If we miss confusedness I think we should hire scientist to try and get more chance of GS. If we get confusedness we should just hold out and hope for GPriest for shrine.
I don't think we would want a GS, GEs and GPs are the way to go, we only need GSs later in the game for corporations. If anything I'd build a temple and employ a priest to get a better chance of a GP. Remember we're going to try for 7 shrines if we can.
Mighty Dwaarf
Ginger Beast
Was just a thought if we dont get confusedness where we wont be able to build shrine untill pilho or theo in the mean time we would look to get priest from second great person. Otherwise would have great person hanging around. Building a temple now maybe prudent to improve chances of GP before Choko starts HG.
If we miss confusedness and get a GS, we could bulb Philosophy (would need to research Meditation I think). Even if we get confused and a GS we could bulb Philo.
Iron Working might be an idea to get cottaging beofre Aesthetics.
Iron Working might be an idea to get cottaging beofre Aesthetics.
cubbiesin08
I am Batman
Good turns - the sooner Shaka is gone, the better.
Now that McArine is back, I'm assuming he'll go next.
Now that McArine is back, I'm assuming he'll go next.
McArine
King
My plan is:
Research: If we get confused, I'll go for IW, if not, I'll go for Meditation for Philosophy.
Building: After Granary in Elephantastic, I'd build a Workboat for Nobamba or Axe, depending on the war.
Switch to Temple in ChokoCentral if we get confused, otherwise just keep on HG.
War: I will attack on turn 7, when the last catapult has arrived over the river. Unless we're facing overwhelming forces.
Research: If we get confused, I'll go for IW, if not, I'll go for Meditation for Philosophy.
Building: After Granary in Elephantastic, I'd build a Workboat for Nobamba or Axe, depending on the war.
Switch to Temple in ChokoCentral if we get confused, otherwise just keep on HG.
War: I will attack on turn 7, when the last catapult has arrived over the river. Unless we're facing overwhelming forces.
Mighty Dwaarf
Ginger Beast
If I remember rightly the seafood near Nobamba has already been worked so no need for workboat there. I would build axe then Granary in elephantastic. My worry is for shaka to sneak a chariot out of Ulundi and retake Nobamba if only defened by a single axe.
Thinking about it building a temple and hiring a priest wont actually increase our chances of a G Priest will only bring first GPerson sooner. If we want to cut 1st great person by about three turns then go for the temple otherwise stick with going for HG.
Thinking about it building a temple and hiring a priest wont actually increase our chances of a G Priest will only bring first GPerson sooner. If we want to cut 1st great person by about three turns then go for the temple otherwise stick with going for HG.
Hiring a priest will actually increase our chance of a prophet (just not very much) this time but will increase even more our chance for a prophet next time.
Mighty Dwaarf
Ginger Beast
We will should have same total priest points whether we get them at 2 per turn or 5 per turn thus same overall priest percentage. If we take ime out now from HG we prolong risk of losing out on this but delay GPerson. Depends which we see as more important. Im happy either way just pointing out options.
I've always thought Hanging Gardens were the way to go, just throw the temple in as we need it for happiness (assuming we get a religion).
McArine
King
Played ten.
Mightys fears became real, as I was about to attack Ulundi, a chariot sneaked by and took Nobamba.
But we took Ulundi without losses. And got a GG during the battle.
We got confused, and of course Nobamba became the holy city
, the turn before we lost it.
I managed to save the free missionary, he is now close to Chokocentral.
I chopped a forest to speed up HG, so it is now 4 turns away.
Meditation researched on turn 10, I chose philosophy, but can be swithced to something else.
Our forces are ready to take Nobamba as soon as it grows.
Mightys fears became real, as I was about to attack Ulundi, a chariot sneaked by and took Nobamba.
But we took Ulundi without losses. And got a GG during the battle.
We got confused, and of course Nobamba became the holy city
, the turn before we lost it. I managed to save the free missionary, he is now close to Chokocentral.
I chopped a forest to speed up HG, so it is now 4 turns away.
Meditation researched on turn 10, I chose philosophy, but can be swithced to something else.
Our forces are ready to take Nobamba as soon as it grows.
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