SGOTM 10 - Team CFR
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Sorry. 
Just found some time. The plan looks fine to me.
I don't have an opinion about stopping the war or not. We may still another worker sooner if we make cease fire now, but staying in war mode is more reliable. I don't have that much experience with worker-stealing to tell which is better.
A woodsman-II mace is not that easy to get. We'll need to build barracks and then kill a unit or two. We definitely need one at some point, but I think now is too early.
Where do we want to build our 3rd city? We should probably start building roads in advance.
Just found some time. The plan looks fine to me.
I don't have an opinion about stopping the war or not. We may still another worker sooner if we make cease fire now, but staying in war mode is more reliable. I don't have that much experience with worker-stealing to tell which is better.
A woodsman-II mace is not that easy to get. We'll need to build barracks and then kill a unit or two. We definitely need one at some point, but I think now is too early.
Where do we want to build our 3rd city? We should probably start building roads in advance.
Save 1385AD
1365 AD (16) - Gandhi popped a GS in Delhi. He is Philo - it means free Merc. scientist gives 6 GPP per turn, 96 per 16 - not enough, so he hired extra scientist. Therefore slower worker, slower settler, etc. He slowed himself down.
2 lbows in each city
I somehow missed 4 worker turns are needed for gold mine, and we need it by turn 18 for StPete to work, so 1 worker stays for a turn longer on it.
1370 (17) - explorer discovers cows and clams near Gandhi's iron - maybe settle 3rd city there and strike peace? :crazy:
GS built Academy in Delhi. Delhi grew to 5 from 4 - builds military, not worker. Success!
1375 (18) - 3rd lbow in Delhi
1380 (19) - Bombay 5, built 3rd lbow - it's low on hammers and works flood plains, so I expect his free specialist is Engineer. Gandhi is still willing to pay for peace - map as he has no gold. Continue pressing. He got 102 espionage vs our 64 - putting commerce into it. Moscow build warrior for 1 turn to grow to pop 5 - another change of plans. Southern worker starts chopping library in StPete.
1385 (20) Gandhi's caravel is NE fom Moscow, not attempting to block our seafood so far. It should have Scout AI. Moscow starts settler. StPete grows to 4.
Delhi is 6 - thus, still not building workers and settlers!
I'd put a great city on iron at ice island, but I believe it'd come 4th or 5th. I still fancy beating Gandhi to his northern iron.
Three forests are to be chopped into settler this turn. I have left workers active for possible change of plans. We can also pop-rush lib in StPete - I recommend. The next target for workers should be iron.
Plan for the next 5 turns tomorrow
1365 AD (16) - Gandhi popped a GS in Delhi. He is Philo - it means free Merc. scientist gives 6 GPP per turn, 96 per 16 - not enough, so he hired extra scientist. Therefore slower worker, slower settler, etc. He slowed himself down.
2 lbows in each city
I somehow missed 4 worker turns are needed for gold mine, and we need it by turn 18 for StPete to work, so 1 worker stays for a turn longer on it.
1370 (17) - explorer discovers cows and clams near Gandhi's iron - maybe settle 3rd city there and strike peace? :crazy:
GS built Academy in Delhi. Delhi grew to 5 from 4 - builds military, not worker. Success!
1375 (18) - 3rd lbow in Delhi
1380 (19) - Bombay 5, built 3rd lbow - it's low on hammers and works flood plains, so I expect his free specialist is Engineer. Gandhi is still willing to pay for peace - map as he has no gold. Continue pressing. He got 102 espionage vs our 64 - putting commerce into it. Moscow build warrior for 1 turn to grow to pop 5 - another change of plans. Southern worker starts chopping library in StPete.
1385 (20) Gandhi's caravel is NE fom Moscow, not attempting to block our seafood so far. It should have Scout AI. Moscow starts settler. StPete grows to 4.
Delhi is 6 - thus, still not building workers and settlers!
I'd put a great city on iron at ice island, but I believe it'd come 4th or 5th. I still fancy beating Gandhi to his northern iron.
Three forests are to be chopped into settler this turn. I have left workers active for possible change of plans. We can also pop-rush lib in StPete - I recommend. The next target for workers should be iron.
Plan for the next 5 turns tomorrow
akots
Poet
Just play it out, it should not take long yet.
Plan
1385 (20) - pop-rush Library in StPete, work clams and cows. Chop 3 forests = 44*3*1.75 = 231 hammers into settler in Moscow. Worker on gold works gold, worker on forest SW from StPete build road S, worker NE from Moscow chops forest.
1390 (21) - 257 hammers invested in Msc in settler, 85 left (~49 base) - pop-rush for 2, overflow to Lib (or lbow? as long as there is no threat from Gandhi, I prefer libs).
Next turns:
St Pete build lib, starts workboat for city 3, then galley to settle ice island. 3rd and 4th citizens will be scientists, 5th will go to gold mine. Works corn and rice whenever not required by Msc.
Worker 2E Msc -> 2S Msc, chop forest for settler. Worker SW Msc - S Msc, chop forest for settler. Worker NEE - work iron. Worker NE - chop, then build road for iron.
I plan 3rd city SW from crabs, to get horses in BFC and share fish with Ice. I plan 4th city on Iron at Ice island for msilver, furs and overseas trade routes. I plan 5th city between Iron and Cows N from Gandhi, if we manage. All settlers to be constructed in the capital. Investigate islands for more city locations, local ones are crap.
Please make your suggestions, I plan to play 24 hours after this post.
1385 (20) - pop-rush Library in StPete, work clams and cows. Chop 3 forests = 44*3*1.75 = 231 hammers into settler in Moscow. Worker on gold works gold, worker on forest SW from StPete build road S, worker NE from Moscow chops forest.
1390 (21) - 257 hammers invested in Msc in settler, 85 left (~49 base) - pop-rush for 2, overflow to Lib (or lbow? as long as there is no threat from Gandhi, I prefer libs).
Next turns:
St Pete build lib, starts workboat for city 3, then galley to settle ice island. 3rd and 4th citizens will be scientists, 5th will go to gold mine. Works corn and rice whenever not required by Msc.
Worker 2E Msc -> 2S Msc, chop forest for settler. Worker SW Msc - S Msc, chop forest for settler. Worker NEE - work iron. Worker NE - chop, then build road for iron.
I plan 3rd city SW from crabs, to get horses in BFC and share fish with Ice. I plan 4th city on Iron at Ice island for msilver, furs and overseas trade routes. I plan 5th city between Iron and Cows N from Gandhi, if we manage. All settlers to be constructed in the capital. Investigate islands for more city locations, local ones are crap.
Please make your suggestions, I plan to play 24 hours after this post.
Save
1385 (20) - forest chopped, worker on gold instead of mine builds road - he will help chop lib into city 3.
IBT - Delhi has barracks. Still no lib in Indian cities.
1390 (21) - library built in Pete, free citizen turned to scientist. Settler rushed in Msk. Redistrubuted corn for 1 turn to StPete, it starts workboat.
IBT - Gandhi built cata in Delhi, works forests actively.
1395 (22) - built settler, started lib (98 hammers overflow)
IBT - GS born somewhere
1400 (23) - founded Novgorod at crabs, fish and horses site. First build boat for crabs (pop-rush). Workers chop for lib, finish by rush. Free specialist Engineer.
IBT - Delhi pop 7, list of largest civs - Gandhi 1st, we 2nd. That means almost surely noone else got 3rd city.
1405 (24) - pop-rushed boat, redistributed food for growth this turn in StPete. Thinking of building lib in Moscow in 2 turns instead of 3.
Bombay didnt grow all the time - evidently, building worker/settler. It has at least 4 flood plains worked with pop 5.
In the save all forests with workers are prechopped from 1 to 4 turns.
Next turns: Saturday or Sunday, proposals are welcomed, nxt player please start getting ready.
1385 (20) - forest chopped, worker on gold instead of mine builds road - he will help chop lib into city 3.
IBT - Delhi has barracks. Still no lib in Indian cities.
1390 (21) - library built in Pete, free citizen turned to scientist. Settler rushed in Msk. Redistrubuted corn for 1 turn to StPete, it starts workboat.
IBT - Gandhi built cata in Delhi, works forests actively.
1395 (22) - built settler, started lib (98 hammers overflow)
IBT - GS born somewhere
1400 (23) - founded Novgorod at crabs, fish and horses site. First build boat for crabs (pop-rush). Workers chop for lib, finish by rush. Free specialist Engineer.
IBT - Delhi pop 7, list of largest civs - Gandhi 1st, we 2nd. That means almost surely noone else got 3rd city.
1405 (24) - pop-rushed boat, redistributed food for growth this turn in StPete. Thinking of building lib in Moscow in 2 turns instead of 3.
Bombay didnt grow all the time - evidently, building worker/settler. It has at least 4 flood plains worked with pop 5.
In the save all forests with workers are prechopped from 1 to 4 turns.
Next turns: Saturday or Sunday, proposals are welcomed, nxt player please start getting ready.
culdeus
Emperor
why did these guys bail?
da_Vinci
Gypsy Prince
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