SGOTM 13 - Ivan

[Marsden]

I am sorry I haven't done them yet. I was unsure to ask for a skip with only three of us or to get to it, but something always happens to keep me from it. It's only 10 turns but the waiting between takes so long. I have had other non civ problems lately and I am now asking to be skipped. I'm not giving up on the hopless situation in game, if I was I would say I was.

 

[Marsden]

I am sorry I haven't done them yet. I was unsure to ask for a skip with only three of us or to get to it, but something always happens to keep me from it. It's only 10 turns but the waiting between turns takes so long. I have had other non civ problems lately and I am now asking to be skipped. I'm not giving up on the hopless situation in game, if I was I would say I was.

 

[I. Larkin]

I am sorry I haven't done them yet. I was unsure to ask for a skip with only three of us or to get to it, but something always happens to keep me from it. It's only 10 turns but the waiting between turns takes so long. I have had other non civ problems lately and I am now asking to be skipped. I'm not giving up on the hopless situation in game, if I was I would say I was.

Since Elear have appeared we continue as

Elear up
Freddo on Deck
I. Larkin
Marsden
AlanH asked about "projection end date". Any ideas?

 

[Elear]

Got it.

 

[Più Freddo]

Got it.

And what did you do with it?

 

[Più Freddo]

Have we inofficially quit, or shall I get the save and play?

 

[Marsden]

I haven't officially quit. I can take it again after you if you'd like. I'm still sorry about holding us up before, I really intended to complete my turns but something always happened to keep me from it.

 

[I. Larkin]

I haven't officially quit. I can take it again after you if you'd like. I'm still sorry about holding us up before, I really intended to complete my turns but something always happened to keep me from it.

Better late, than never.
I sent PM to Elear, but did not get reply.
So Roster:
Marsden
Elear (If appear)
P.Freddo
I.Larkin

 

[Più Freddo]

1120*AD Here we are… I started Marsdenland improvement via workers/ forest cut method and care about Culture pressure. Kyoto will be military supply. Idea is to Make a peace with Vikings for Invention and our gpt, make Peace with India, when they will be close, and declare to Vikings again.

I think this is our latest battle plan.

 

[I. Larkin]

Dear Più Freddo, our team mate are so irresponsible, that we (if going to continue) have to relay on us two. Please take this and play, and I will continue, unless Elear and Marsden will promice that they change behavior.
Ivan

 

[Più Freddo]

our team mate are so irresponsible, that we (if going to continue) have to relay on us two.

That's fine with me.

 

[Più Freddo]

Dear Ivan,

Got it.

Some questions for you:

1. Why are we not researching as fast as possible, maybe with a little deficit?

2. What is the money for? Can I cash rush some improvements, too?

3. Can I sell techs to Maya for 4 gpt? Or will they die on me too?

4. Why do we want a war against Scandinavia?

5. I would research towards Astronomy, upgrade the Galley and start exploring. We'll have to take the land from someone and move our capital there. I suppose using Longbowmen?

 

[Più Freddo]

Idea is to take Edu+ Invention from Scandinavia for gpt and, if they do not have Astro Declare again. India may appear at any moment and we are Toast...

Just found this. So I should check Scandinavia each turn and see if we can get a tech from them in exchange for peace. We are researching slowly because we hope to get the tech(s) in trade.

If they don't have Astronomy, it is safe to declare on them again (freeing any gpt), otherwise it might be too dangerous given that they then might be able to sail to our shores and rape our virgin daughters.

Please still answer my questions!

 

[I. Larkin]

Dear Ivan,

Got it.

Some questions for you:

1. Why are we not researching as fast as possible, maybe with a little deficit?

2. What is the money for? Can I cash rush some improvements, too?

3. Can I sell techs to Maya for 4 gpt? Or will they die on me too?

4. Why do we want a war against Scandinavia?

5. I would research towards Astronomy, upgrade the Galley and start exploring. We'll have to take the land from someone and move our capital there. I suppose using Longbowmen?

1.2. money we need for "deals" and pay tribute to India, say. It is lot cheaper to buy peace if they are not landed yet. Some short rush of improuvements is possible, but we may need rush units, upgrade units... (not for war, but to have peace cheaper.) So save money, if no really good idea.
3. Why not? probably I miss it...
4. to get tech WH, and save money. But if they arrive somehow we need peace.
5. LB vs Infantery... Never had this experience. But, i general it is an idea to make Palace jump. But for 2 Islands it is not a big difference in corruption.
We may discuss it when will have sttelment on mainland.

 

[Più Freddo]

3. Why not? probably I miss it...

Well, "why not" was what I was thinking when I made a similar deal with Spain... As we seem to agree, that Maya will not die in the next 20 turns, I'll make the deal.

4. to get tech WH, and save money.

So they declared, eh. OK.

5. LB vs Infantery... Never had this experience.

Maybe we can make war against weaker tribes. But they won't have good lands for us. We need a world map.

 

[Più Freddo]

I started Marsdenland improvement via workers/ forest cut method

As far as I know, you can use each tile only once for this purpose. So we have to track which ones have already been used. A stack of workers are standing at the north end of Marsdenland -- did they just cut a forest into the Aqueduct? Then I'll have to move them elsewhere before I start planting a new forest? Are there any other tiles which are already spent?

 

[Più Freddo]

I have made this list:

Tiles already used for forest chopping:

Kagoshima #3
Ivanograd #8, #20​

Kagoshima #3 is what I ask about above. Ivanograd #20 is a tile where forest is being planted at 1120 AD. So I will chop it when it's ready.
Ivanograd #8 is a tile where there originally was a forest. I assume that it has at some time been chopped towards a build in Ivanograd.

The numbering is the normal NE, E, ..., N, NNE, NENE, ...

 

[I. Larkin]

Well, "why not" was what I was thinking when I made a similar deal with Spain... As we seem to agree, that Maya will not die in the next 20 turns, I'll make the deal.

It does not matter now. Our reputation low, but AIRC we did not lost MA rep yet.

I have made this list:

Tiles already used for forest chopping:

Kagoshima #3
Ivanograd #8, #20

CivAssist2 give this information about Forest.

 

[Più Freddo]

CivAssist2 give this information about Forest.

My machines are too weak to run CA2 for this game.

Laptop: 1.7 GHz, 1.5 GByte
Desktop: 3 GHz, 0.5 GByte

I'm happy I can play the game alone at all.

After two turns (one hour) nothing of interest to report.

 

[I. Larkin]

Well, but separatly it runs.