SGOTM 16 - Misfit Gypsy Nuts

[adrianj]

I've attached a modified screenshot comparing what we might reveal by moving settler NW or NE/NW.

Moving NW should reveal at least 5 tiles (shown as blue childish crosses), one of which we suspect is a floodplain? I guess that leaves 4 tiles where we hope to find a nice resource like food.

Moving on to the hill will reveal at least 8 tiles (red) and potentially an extra 8 (orange) depending on line-of-sight from the hill. *If* there is extra food nearby, does this not increase our chances of revealing it?

If we move to the hill, it is still possible to settle on turn 2, just not on the plains forest tile. It's not like that particular site is really that great based on what we can see. And it's certainly still possible for us to settle on on any flat non-forest tile adjacent to the hill.

 

[Sleepless]

One of the problems I can see with the hill is the possible lack of freshwater? Certainly there will be more tiles revealed though by going to the hill. What might be an idea if we go that way is to move the settler onto the corn and then pause/load pic before moving onto the hill as it might be worth going back to the original starting position?

 

[Ronnie1]

One of the problems I can see with the hill is the possible lack of freshwater? Certainly there will be more tiles revealed though by going to the hill. What might be an idea if we go that way is to move the settler onto the corn and then pause/load pic before moving onto the hill as it might be worth going back to the original starting position?

I like this plan!

 

[Grifftavian]

One of the problems I can see with the hill is the possible lack of freshwater? Certainly there will be more tiles revealed though by going to the hill. What might be an idea if we go that way is to move the settler onto the corn and then pause/load pic before moving onto the hill as it might be worth going back to the original starting position?

I like this plan!

Sounds like a good idea to me as well! Stand by for the screenshot!

 

[Grifftavian]

Well, moving onto the Corn didn't reveal much. Plains tiles off to the NE with no signs of water & a Forested Plains Hill north of the Hill that was 2N of the starting location.

I think our options at this point are continue on to the Hill, move 1NE of the Corn, or return to starting position. Opinions?

 

[Ozbenno]

In for a penny in for a pound, onto the hill methinks, settling on it may end up being the right play. Don't see any point moving back and don't think we need to see NE of the corn...

 

[Ronnie1]

In for a penny in for a pound, onto the hill methinks, settling on it may end up being the right play. Don't see any point moving back and don't think we need to see NE of the corn...

I agree!

 

[Sleepless]

Yep onto the hill... The extra hammer if we settle there is a big help early and hope for more food. Doesn't seem much of a potential commerce capital though

 

[Grifftavian]

On to the Hill it is: stand by.

 

[Grifftavian]

I moved the Settler onto the Hill, not too much was revealed, but it does look like there is a coastal tile 2NE of the Settler on the Hill. I went ahead and ended the turn, then moved the Warrior 1W, which confirmed that the forested tile that is S+SE of the Settler's starting location is a Plains Hill.

The attached screen shot shows the Settler ready to move again, and the Game AI has indicated two Blue Circles for suggested City locations, for whatever that's worth. I suppose the northern Blue Circle indicates there is another Food resource off to the East, but to me, that doesn't look like a great location for our Capitol.

Should we move the Settler 1 SW to see what that reveals west of the river? That would also allow us to end this turn and move the Warrior 1W onto that forested plains hill, which may reveal more of the area west of the river.

 

[Ronnie1]

I'd like to see the save if possible. The hill west of the warrior won't reveal much because all of the tiles west of it are forested I think.

 

[Ronnie1]

I think I kind of like settler SW, that site now gives lots of riverside tiles, forests, hills when needed, and hopefully more food to the west.

From what I see now, the original starting location is not that bad, just because we have revealed nothing else useful from 2 hill views.

I do not think we should rush this at this point.

 

[Grifftavian]

Sorry, should have thought to attached the saved game with the screenshot; here it is now.

 

[Ronnie1]

Thanks!

There is definitely coast NE of the settlers current location and only plains in between. I see no reason to go that direction now.

It also appears that there may NOT be forest west of the hill west of the warrior.

I am voting to move the settler 1SW, then the warrior 1W next turn, and be prepared to settle on T3.

 

[Grifftavian]

Thanks!

There is definitely coast NE of the settlers current location and only plains in between. I see no reason to go that direction now.

It also appears that there may NOT be forest west of the hill west of the warrior.

I am voting to move the settler 1SW, then the warrior 1W next turn, and be prepared to settle on T3.

Any other opinions?

 

[Ronnie1]

Please wait for Sleepless and Ozbenno to comment at least. They have both posted recently about the start, and we are not in any kind of hurry.

 

[Ozbenno]

Got the fog gazing glasses on....

The west of the river isn't forested I think, so I think we should be looking at either

a) settle on the plains hill NOW
b) back to settle in original position on next turn or
c) settle west of river on next turn

If we think b or c we should move the settler SW as suggested and then next turn move the warrior to the plains hill and see which of b or c is better.

I don't think the plains hill is going to be good, no access to fresh water and got a feeling that something will be west of the river which we will miss.

 

[Sleepless]

Thanks!

I am voting to move the settler 1SW, then the warrior 1W next turn, and be prepared to settle on T3.

Agreed.

Although a bit further on the blue circle on the hill with the 2 seafood won't be a bad site for running early scientists. Which puts me off a bit settling in the original site.

 

[timmy827]

Hi, back from my trip. My fog gazing is not great and I'm not used to being this deliberative about the start (not complaining, just trying to accurately tell the team how strongly to weight my own opinion...). FWIW I am in agreement with Ronnie and Griff on moving setter 1SW and likely planting there next turn (absent the warrior uncovering something awesome to the SW. )

 

[Grifftavian]

OK, looks like we have a pretty good consensus for moving the Settler 1SW, then moving the Warrior 1W on the start of the next turn. I'll get that done shortly and post the results.