Who is up next? Should I create a roster?
SGOTM 22 - Xteam
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Ronnie1
Deity
Great news Neil!
I am looking at the map and it seems like we are being "pushed" towards Cataphants based on current resource allocation. I am guessing there is a trap in there somehow.
Pyramids would be the wonder I would want, but without stone, it is a heavy build.
GLH makes sense because of the wonder requirement, else I would probably not go that way next.
I am looking at the map and it seems like we are being "pushed" towards Cataphants based on current resource allocation. I am guessing there is a trap in there somehow.
Pyramids would be the wonder I would want, but without stone, it is a heavy build.
GLH makes sense because of the wonder requirement, else I would probably not go that way next.
This is based off of Neil's scenarios 1 & 2
Tech Path: 2120bc switch to Sailing->BW->Writing->??? Choices: IW 14 turns, Math 20, Riding 20, Mysticism 4. I took IW.
Caput build Queue: Settler->Worker->Lighthouse->GLH->Settler
Rome build Queue: Archer->Granary->Archer->Archer->Archer->Archer Rome whipped Archer->Granary when BW was learned.
Chopped 3 forests into GLH
1160bc with GLH 4 turns from completion switched to settler
1080bc whip settler 20 hammer over flow to GLH (2 turns of building GLH = 22 hammers)
1000bc when GLH would have finished if not for settler build had 199 hammers of 200(I made a mistake by chop grass forest first, should have chopped hill and built mine
Other worker chops hill and builds mine when a mine is finished chop grass forest while working 2 mines for extra hammers and commerce.)
975bc GLH->archer
950bc Archer done for 5 archers in Caput with Rome to finish #6.
Looking for place to settle.
Tech Path: 2120bc switch to Sailing->BW->Writing->??? Choices: IW 14 turns, Math 20, Riding 20, Mysticism 4. I took IW.
Caput build Queue: Settler->Worker->Lighthouse->GLH->Settler
Rome build Queue: Archer->Granary->Archer->Archer->Archer->Archer Rome whipped Archer->Granary when BW was learned.
Chopped 3 forests into GLH
1160bc with GLH 4 turns from completion switched to settler
1080bc whip settler 20 hammer over flow to GLH (2 turns of building GLH = 22 hammers)
1000bc when GLH would have finished if not for settler build had 199 hammers of 200(I made a mistake by chop grass forest first, should have chopped hill and built mine
Other worker chops hill and builds mine when a mine is finished chop grass forest while working 2 mines for extra hammers and commerce.)
975bc GLH->archer
950bc Archer done for 5 archers in Caput with Rome to finish #6.
Looking for place to settle.
If no one else wants to play I do not mind being next. Though I have a few questions.
How to show we met the requirements for settling a new city. Do I take a screenshot of the capital since it will show buildings and population?
If we do need a screenshot, where would I up load it to, and do I need to save the game and up load that file? If saving the game, is it before settling, after settling or both?
Htadus
A and L's dad
Hopefully a save file is all we need just before settling or immediately after. I am sure we will get a visit from SG Santa with answers.
I too like the Mids but do not think it should be in the capital. May be in another city?
You've got it.
Found this
Why don't we take a screenshot of the capital before building a new city and post it in this thread as a part of the turn set report.
Also, make a save and upload it to the GOTM server prior to founding the new city, then we are covered.
Ronnie1
Deity
Do you have a plan yet Joe from ID?
I though my plan was in post 203. Which is what I followed up till learning BW.
Here are the results:
Rome is founded in 1840bc
Spoiler :
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[/URL][/IMG]Link to file before http://gotm.civfanatics.net/download.php?file=Xteam_SG022_BC1840_01.CivBeyondSwordSave
Continued in next post
We learned Bronze Working in 1480bc and know the location of 1 source of copper.
Right after Rome was founded I sent 2 warriors out to fog bust. The warrior I sent west lost a battle with an archer.
Game was paused and saved as soon as we learned BW. Need to decide on next tech to learn, make moves and revolt into slavery.
Autolog
Right after Rome was founded I sent 2 warriors out to fog bust. The warrior I sent west lost a battle with an archer.
Game was paused and saved as soon as we learned BW. Need to decide on next tech to learn, make moves and revolt into slavery.
Autolog
Spoiler :
I misunderstood as well. Sorry about that.
Generally we label the Pre-Play Plan as PPP. Reading post 203, I thought it was a test you had done to support a PPP.
Could you please upload the current save to the GOTM server so we can have a look at it?
Play looks good thus far.
I also misunderstood. I can give a ppp up to when GLH is built (should be 1000bc), I still have a little fine tuning to do on worker actions and what tiles the cities work.I misunderstood as well. Sorry about that.
Generally we label the Pre-Play Plan as PPP. Reading post 203, I thought it was a test you had done to support a PPP.
Could you please upload the current save to the GOTM server so we can have a look at it?
Play looks good thus far.
Link to save as of 1480bc. Game is paused. http://gotm.civfanatics.net/download.php?file=Xteam_SG022_BC1480_01.CivBeyondSwordSave
Sorry to be out for a few days.
Reading the posts I was shocked to see the auto log as I thought it was all on the test save. The post 203 indeed just looked like some test results. It was the post 'title' that was the problem. If it was labelled 'plan' then all would be OK.
You did the right thing in waiting a few days for comments, but I don't think anyone else realised you were ready to play and considered your post the plan.
The play itself went very well, no problems there. Very nice to have a woody 2, shame we lost him. misread, we still have him!
I will have a detailed look tonight (I hope I will have the time)
edit: my gut instinct says "Mathematics" next.... but it is usually wrong. Currency, Calendar & Construction. IW is also compelling
Reading the posts I was shocked to see the auto log as I thought it was all on the test save. The post 203 indeed just looked like some test results. It was the post 'title' that was the problem. If it was labelled 'plan' then all would be OK.
You did the right thing in waiting a few days for comments, but I don't think anyone else realised you were ready to play and considered your post the plan.
The play itself went very well, no problems there.
Very nice to have a woody 2, I will have a detailed look tonight (I hope I will have the time)
edit: my gut instinct says "Mathematics" next.... but it is usually wrong. Currency, Calendar & Construction. IW is also compelling
I'm not wild about a great lighthouse plan. It will take a lot of time before that will pay for itself. We will not be having many coastal cities. I would be more positive for a Colossus plan.
I would prefer a city by horse and time to conquer everyone.
Also a workboat to explore the coast before the barbs get galleys would be nice. The sooner we find the AI the sooner we can kill them. Alternative is to tech to paper as soon as possible and make new plans while building university of Sankore.
I would prefer a city by horse and time to conquer everyone.
Also a workboat to explore the coast before the barbs get galleys would be nice. The sooner we find the AI the sooner we can kill them. Alternative is to tech to paper as soon as possible and make new plans while building university of Sankore.
GLH play is more about getting another wonder down, one of the few that does not require resources we don't have. With 7 required its a lot, both Stonehenge & Oracle went early to non-industrious leaders, so it would seem Stone & Marble may already be available to some leaders. Makes sense that this requirement would require some effort.
With so many wonders coming either very early or very late, I don't mind getting another one now. We are stuck with 2 cities until we have 6 archers, so why not build a wonder now.
I agree we need to test it out however, I would also like a WB to explore and get TR's, but it would seem they are all some distance... through jungle... so quick conquest would seem difficult, and barb cities may/will disrupt TR's, so maybe the WB is not worth it for now.
edit: I am a little surprised copper is so far away, I expected no horses with the pig almost forcing us into AH, but I felt the BW restriction on no longer allowing warriors to count once it was learned kind of meant we would definitely have copper in the BFC.
edit2: this is nice mapmaking BSPollux, not predictable....
With so many wonders coming either very early or very late, I don't mind getting another one now. We are stuck with 2 cities until we have 6 archers, so why not build a wonder now.
I agree we need to test it out however, I would also like a WB to explore and get TR's, but it would seem they are all some distance... through jungle... so quick conquest would seem difficult, and barb cities may/will disrupt TR's, so maybe the WB is not worth it for now.
edit: I am a little surprised copper is so far away, I expected no horses with the pig almost forcing us into AH, but I felt the BW restriction on no longer allowing warriors to count once it was learned kind of meant we would definitely have copper in the BFC.
edit2: this is nice mapmaking BSPollux, not predictable....
With us needing 6 archer spending 200 hammers on getting a wonder that gives no payback in the foreseeable future seems like dubious play. If We plan to stay with two cities while we build 7 wonders, we can build the great lighthouse while teching literature. The great library seems to be a good wonder. We will also get the statue of Zues on the way there.
What is our plan with our great spy?
What is our plan with our great spy?
With our restricted number of cities, think IW should be next so we can locate it and target a city to claim it, hopefully? In addition, it allows us to chop jungle as there is plenty of that around.
Then seems like we need to get to Calendar and Construction so we can try to seize some Stone or Marble to build what wonders we need? Monarchy needs to be in there somewhere as well......
Seems like we'll need to choose city sites with care as there will be few of them, no waste allowed?
Then seems like we need to get to Calendar and Construction so we can try to seize some Stone or Marble to build what wonders we need? Monarchy needs to be in there somewhere as well......
Seems like we'll need to choose city sites with care as there will be few of them, no waste allowed?
Thank you! Love to see people predict things and be wrong
I'm not trying to be unfair, but reading "we know what will happen" and then "didn't see that coming" feels good.Coming close to Dortmund?
Ronnie1
Deity
We have 31 hammers invested in the GLH currently.
If we choose to continue this build, I want to grow Caput to size 6 and 2 pop whip a worker for max(ish) overflow. If we take the pigs back and max food, we can grow it in 2 turns, work the pigs(maybe) for a turn on the worker and we should be able to hit 28-29 hammers. This worker can then mine/chop the other riverside grass hill into the wonder.
IW to be prepared for city 3 or writing are my best guess at next tech. Given no tech trading, I am leaning towards writing.
If we choose to continue this build, I want to grow Caput to size 6 and 2 pop whip a worker for max(ish) overflow. If we take the pigs back and max food, we can grow it in 2 turns, work the pigs(maybe) for a turn on the worker and we should be able to hit 28-29 hammers. This worker can then mine/chop the other riverside grass hill into the wonder.
IW to be prepared for city 3 or writing are my best guess at next tech. Given no tech trading, I am leaning towards writing.
