SGOTM 23 - Turbo Ants

[LowtherCastle]

Is it 117 or 116?

Currently, T111, it says deal can't bbe cancelled for 5t. That means T116, right?

 

[LowtherCastle]

Hamburg: build wealth? it won't finish that galley

I suppose. I kept going back and forth, because we could finish it eventually with workshops and the wealth is negligible. Whatever.

 

[WastinTime]

Currently, T111, it says deal can't bbe cancelled for 5t. That means T116, right?

that's what I thought too, but the writeup had 117. Just checking.

 

[WastinTime]

we have 13xp knights?
you mean the 8/13 HA and the 10/13 HA?

 

[LowtherCastle]

we have 13xp knights?
you mean the 8/13 HA and the 10/13 HA?

I meant 13 str (C3) knights).

 

[LowtherCastle]

I finally found some plan for Churchill. (xpost)

I'd like to use less galleys. We already have 4 almost complete, so no less than 4.
I'd like the London bombard at London-W. It blocks a lot of worker chops. See if we can get units to brexit. I would do one Amphib Knight in Paris since it's half built and we have a stable there, and the Accuracy Cat in SQ since CEB doesn't have a rax. Paris will probably need a workshop or two and work the copper T114, but I'm sure these 2 cities can work it out. Cat must be moving T114. FurCity Knight goes to London. Paris knight can move T115 for T116 DoW in the North-Church area.

So I'd go for Canter/Hasting/London plans above.
Skip the York galley

I'm not clear on your Churchill attack plan. Which cities do we attack on T116, if any? Edit: Never mind, missed it.

Paris builds 7XP knights. Need 8XP for amphib. That's Berlin only.

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[WastinTime]

In my head (so not exactly concrete plans), I figured out how to get a knight out of Oporto for London. Then Furcity's can go to Canter: These are tight.

worker5 does 1t of workshop at Furcity, then returns to finish chop at Oporto 112-113. Oporto will have to not work fish 1t, maybe work a citizen instead of merchant and, most importantly, NOT finish the granary.
Worker4: chop, wkshp, SQ-Ewkshp
worker2: wkshp, mine, mine
worker6: wkshp, wkshp, SQ-Ewkshp
worker1: wkshp at SQ-E

If my math is right, that leaves only 4 more units that need to be sent north (3 more amphib, 1 not) Maybe the naked HA in Paris goes (no upgrade)

 

[WastinTime]

I'm not clear on your Churchill attack plan. Which cities do we attack on T116, if any?

we get Canter and Nottingham Hastings T116, maybe the north island too?

 

[WastinTime]

I was confused on which city was Hastings. Maybe we're better off doing Hastings T116 so we can work our way to the east.

 

[WastinTime]

Nottingham is on our landmass (so not as urgent for our trade rt bonus) and we can drop knights near it plus use our chariot, so how about we don't do amphibious there. We get it T117. And that worker should be on the Iron

edit: just get the worker with the chariot and ignore Nottingham

...long lunch break

 

[LowtherCastle]

Tentative Churchill Planning, 4 galleys

We want the units on our galleys on T115 at the latest for T116 attack/landing, right?

Unit completion dates:
T111-113, T115 Berlin (amphib Kn)
T113 FredCity (galley for Hastings)
T114 Oporto (Kn), SQ(cat), CanalCIty (Kn)
T115 Paris(Kn)

Paris: gets 2 chops (2s + 3s1e)
FC: chop furs, build mines, whatever
SQ: works copper straight thru
Fred: needs workshop T112
Oporto: granary-knight, 2 chops (2w1n + 2n)


Note: All planning is tentative until it all dovetails with other fronts.

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[LowtherCastle]

Hastings Planning

3 amphib knights (Berlin T111-112-113) + Paris knight

Fredburg completes galley on T113 (requires wkshp), collects 2 amphib knights and moves to London-se, 2 amphib knights disembark T114. T115 knights move onto Galley 6 at Hastings-sw. T115 same galley collects knight and cat.
Galley 6 is waiting at Hastings-1sw on T115 to pick up 2 amphib knights from London.
New CEB galley is waiting at SQ-3n1e on T115 to pick up T115 amphib knight + Paris knight (requires T115 road at furs or northern coast).

Canterbury Planning
Galley 5 (in Nottingham) will collect amphib knight and CanalCity knight on T115 move to Cant-2s2e.

Notes:
FurCity knight is too late for Churchill, goes eastward instead.
T114 Berlin knight can go to KK.

Edit: Sending 3 amphib knights to Hastings in case there's an HA or another archer in there.

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[LowtherCastle]

My thoughts on KK:
0. KK is completely backwards still. We don't want any of our units to die.
1. Karakorum is 60% on a hill. 9.9str archer and 9.15 archer. Use two 13 str XP knights. (Not March)
2. Heal those two CIII knights for Old Sarai, also on a hill.
3. Other knights can be March.
4. Beshbalik. 7.05 archer at best. Need 3 March knights plus clean-up.
5. Conclusion: 2@ 7XP knights (March) + C2HA for T115 Beshbalik capture. 2@9XP knights (C3) for T116 Karakorum. 2@C3HA backups. T116 best-case scenario. All of thoae are available now in the Berlin area.


Notes:
1. We can also upgrade HAs in Beshbalik, as needed.
2. T116 Churchill plans need to dovetail with KK plans, to ensure adequate units for both.

xposts

Updated KK Planning

Send these units:
Knights 1,2,3 (Yak-2s)
HA 28 (Yak-sw)
HA 31 (Fred-e)
HA 33 (Berl-e)
HA 37 (Berl-2s2e)

C3 HA 31 could upgrade to knight T111 on road at Berl-2e1n for T116 Karakorum capture or could (hopefully) upgrade to a knight after we capture Beshbalik on T115 for T117 Karak capture.

 

[WastinTime]

Unit completion dates:
T111-113, T115 Berlin (amphib Kn)

You're saying those are the 4 amphibs.

but we get Berlin knights every turn 111-117 at least. So the 114, for example, can go to Mao or something.

 

[LowtherCastle]

You're saying those are the 4 amphibs.

but we get Berlin knights every turn 111-117 at least. So the 114, for example, can go to Mao or something.

Yes. We should get them every turn till the end.

 

[LowtherCastle]

DO we need to line up Sal or just trust we'll have enough units?

 

[WastinTime]

I'd rather send CanalCity to Mao since it's in that direction.

And do the Oporto/FurCity plan I outlined. It does more workshops and organic building of knights just as fast as chopping. It should mean we get another quick set of knights from the chops. I'd like to chop the furs at late as possible and still be useful hammers.

Oporto goes to Hastings (instead of paris knight)
FC goes to London
Paris goes to Canter (boards at Hamb-Fish)

** I see now this has the affect of one less movement point for the galley at Canterbury. That would mean we can't attack Amphib and then pick up that knight again T116. It may not be healthy enough to do anything T117.

 

[WastinTime]

DO we need to line up Sal or just trust we'll have enough units?

Haven't even looked in the south yet
I think we trust we can work it out later.

 

[LowtherCastle]

I'd rather send CanalCity to Mao since it's in that direction.

And do the Oporto/FurCity plan I outlined. It does more workshops and organic building of knights just as fast as chopping. It should mean we get another quick set of knights from the chops. I'd like to chop the furs at late as possible and still be useful hammers.

Oporto goes to Hastings (instead of paris knight)
FC goes to London
Paris goes to Canter (boards at Hamb-Fish)

** I see now this has the affect of one less movement point for the galley at Canterbury. That would mean we can't attack Amphib and then pick up that knight again T116. It may not be healthy enough to do anything T117.

YOu're going to build 2 roads for the FC knight to board for Colonel Hastings?

 

[WastinTime]

YOu're going to build 2 roads for the FC knight to board for Colonel Hastings?

no, one road. Oporto goes to Hastings. FC goes to London.