[BTS] SGOTM 26 - Unusual Suspects

[SittinDown]

Turn Set Update: 7-10

Religions:

• Hinduism founded T-9.
  
• No Buddhism yet.

Scouting / AI:

• Nothing good found in scouting.
• No new rivals met.
• Realized that Cahokia had a totem pole since turn 0. So, some map-maker assist is going on. (See above post).
  
• I didn't look at our tech rate closely enough to determine if SB was gifted Myst, or the Totem pole was just added as a freebee.
  
• Found SB's land. He's pretty close. He's going to be a tough one to attack early, with PRO, and early totem pole.

Cities:

• Work boat just finished in capital. Recommend: 1-turn into WORK BOAT, to grow to size 2 then worker. Extra work boat can scout that island to the South, and we probably don't need a warrior for a little while.
  
• Mysticism just teched. Recommend: Play start Monument in E (Vienne). Monument takes 10 turns. Worker doesn't have much useful to do before border pop anyway, and border pop is +2 GPT, so earlier is nice.
  
• Recommend: Play test whether founding 1E of Wheat is better now, or after we get a few turns into AH.

Save:

• http://gotm.civfanatics.net/download.php?file=Unusual_Suspects_SG026_BC3600_01.CivBeyondSwordSave

Spoiler Screenshot :

 

[SittinDown]

Who is up next?

 

[kcd_swede]

good job! we should friend sb for a while... ob at least. he likes to beg, so it could cost.

 

[Deckhand]

Who is up next?

Zhary, kcd or DS - who has time?
I have more time for games now than over the last month; but still not enough. Maybe in a few weeks.

good job! we should friend sb for a while... ob at least. he likes to beg, so it could cost.

Definitely open borders with writing. We need to scout past his land and beyond.

 

[kcd_swede]

:crickets:
I could execute a very detailed plan "whenever". But I should not be allowed to write the plan since I struggled on a recent warlords level BoTM. Civ6 thinking in a Civ4 game is very dangerous.

Tell me what to do, and I can (probably) do it without too many issues.

 

[SittinDown]

PPP:

[I did no new analysis of this.]

Turn 10 -

• Start Monument in E.
• Move work boat to improve seafood.
• Have capital put 1- turn into WorkBoat.
• Begin researching AH.

Turn 11-

• Switch Capital to Worker.
• Improve seafood, and begin using that tile.

Turns 12-20

• Explore and run slider at 0% until AH can be researched.

Turn ?

• Found city 1-E of Wheat with build order: Worker -> Monument. This delays AH, but should pay off well once the Wheat. Originally when the 2 furs were in the 1-st ring, this was a no-brainer, settle ASAP. I still tend to think settling earlier and getting the city going is more valuable than improving brown cows in the capital.

 

[Deckhand]

Green
Pause if meet anyone or any decisions

 

[kcd_swede]

(Turn ?

• Found city 1-E of Wheat with build order: Worker -> Monument. This delays AH, but should pay off well once the Wheat. Originally when the 2 furs were in the 1-st ring, this was a no-brainer, settle ASAP. I still tend to think settling earlier and getting the city going is more valuable than improving brown cows in the capital.)

This is kind of a big decision... I can't see value in having the settler standing there waiting.
Also, it sound like you see a conflict for the worker (that we don't have yet) in capitol and 1-east of wheat. Not sure what you are thinking?

 

[SittinDown]

My gut says to also settle 1-E of wheat now.

Not sure what you are thinking?

I just wanted to point out that settling a 3rd city now will delay Animal Husbandry, so the cow tile in the capital will be slower to get improved. [But I think it's a good trade anyway, since there are still 4 improvable tiles in the capital before the cow anyway.]

 

[ChrisShaffer]

I don't think you're in a hurry for brown cow, even if chocolate milk is delicious.

 

[SittinDown]

Ok - sounds like we all agree to settle 1-E of Wheat now, and start a worker there.

Anyone want to play the turns?

I can later tonight but I don't want to take over the whole thing.

 

[kcd_swede]

Go for it, SD. I wouldn't be able to do it before tomorrow night (about 23 hours from now). Green.

 

[SittinDown]

T-10

• Founded 1-E of Wheat, started worker.

T-11

• Scouted Cahokia. ..........he doesn't have a monument..... he has a CASTLE. +25% on a hill. His land looks like junk. His city is size one, and he's working a river plains.

T-12-20

• Scouting, waiting for worker to be ready. Watching ESPIONAGE, SB may have met someone else - he is only putting +5 on us now, but was putting +6 on us earlier, so there's probably someone reachable to the East once we OB.

T-19

• Got enough gold to start 100% towards AH - put 1 turn into AH. I still think AH -> Writing is a good option, since we don't have to build settlers, chopping is less useful quite this early.

T-20

• (Oops, I missed Buddhism getting founded in 3720 BC)
  
• Did not meet anyone.
• Basically finished scouting with our settlers.
  
• Worker ready in capital.

Scouting some very nice land to the NE, couple possible city spots.

Spoiler NW :

Save:
http://gotm.civfanatics.net/download.php?file=Unusual_Suspects_SG026_BC3200_01.CivBeyondSwordSave

 

[ChrisShaffer]

I never thought I'd see the day when we might call cold frozen tundra "very nice." And yet, it is. I like 3 food 3 commerce in the center because it's got forests it can work or chop.

 

[SittinDown]

3 food 3 commerce in the center because it's got forests it can work or chop.

Good point.

 

[kcd_swede]

 

[SittinDown]

I don't have a strong opinion yet on where to go next. Seems like we just need to pound through some turns here, get the workers going, explore other islands with a spare WB or two, finish AH, and pick a tech path like mining / bw, wheel, writing, sailing.

 

[kcd_swede]

I don't have a strong opinion yet on where to go next. Seems like we just need to pound through some turns here, get the workers going, explore other islands with a spare WB or two, finish AH, and pick a tech path like mining / bw, wheel, writing, sailing.

Well, we could just improvise. LOL... that is how I play in my own games. (Not recommended for anything other than mediocracy).

 

[SittinDown]

(Not recommended for anything other than mediocracy).

I made that mistake with the Ramses GOTM-193. Was like "Warlord..... sweet start.... I don't even need to think.... <an hour later>.... crap, I squandered that. I mean, it's completely winnable, sure, but ugh."

 

[SittinDown]

Anyone else want to weigh in on next PPP?