pindicator
Emperor
I can grab it tomorrow (if it's still around!)
SGOTM 9 - jeffelammar
- Thread starter AlanH
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denyd
Emperor
I'm currently playing COTM 23 and all of the AI are in Fascism. It's almost 1900 and 4 of the AI have been in the Modern Era for 100+ years. None have started Manhattan or UN. I'm thinking that either they're prevented from building SS parts or the focus of Fascism makes the chance of any non-military build < 10%
Since it doesn't look like Gandhi is ever going to build an SS, what's the plan?
Since it doesn't look like Gandhi is ever going to build an SS, what's the plan?
jeffelammar
Space for rent
The plan is to do anything that happens to occur to you that *might* get Ghandi to cooperate.
Last few ideas that I came up with were.
1. Cleaning Ghandi's pollution for him
2. Getting Brennie to start a ship (done)
I just came up with something I'd like to try.
Get all our units outside of Celtic territory and keep them there. He might be happier if we do not look like we are invading.
Other than that, Jove is really not that far off in his advice
We are down to six days, so we'd better get cranking.
Last few ideas that I came up with were.
1. Cleaning Ghandi's pollution for him
2. Getting Brennie to start a ship (done)
I just came up with something I'd like to try.
Get all our units outside of Celtic territory and keep them there. He might be happier if we do not look like we are invading.
Other than that, Jove is really not that far off in his advice
We are down to six days, so we'd better get cranking.
denyd
Emperor
With COTM 23 put to bed (though not finished) I can also grab a set or 2 this week. I'll check in tonight and see what the status is.
Have we decided on what we want to do in 2049 AD?
I'd like to have that last SS part scheduled to complete in 2049 AD and send a dozen nukes at Gandhi just before the launch. Maybe try to time a domination, 100K culture & SS launch for 2049 AD might be a challenge worth attempting.
Have we decided on what we want to do in 2049 AD?
I'd like to have that last SS part scheduled to complete in 2049 AD and send a dozen nukes at Gandhi just before the launch. Maybe try to time a domination, 100K culture & SS launch for 2049 AD might be a challenge worth attempting.
Here is the save.
http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/sgotm9/Jeffelammar_SG009_AD2015_01.SAV
Turn 0: --
IBT: India loses a ship to a sub and then kills the sub. A small invasion force walks into Spain.
Turn 1: Bombard, clean up pollution.
IBT: India loses a ship and kills a sub. The invaders retreat and new ones come. Learn future tech 1.
Turn 2: Bombard.
IBT: Nothing
Turn 3: Sell a library.
IBT: Lose a ship. Barcelona flips to us and I refuse it.
Turn 4: Bombard.
IBT: India lands invasion force.
Turn 5: Bombard.
IBT: Nothing
Turn 6: Bombard. We shoot down an Indian interceptor while bombing a ship. I didnt think they had any fighters, but evidently they did. Sell another library.
IBT: They bombard.
Turn 7: Bombard, clean up pollution
IBT: They bombard.
Turn 8: Bombard
IBT: They bombard
Turn 9: Same
Turn 10: Same
Nothing exciting to report.
http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/sgotm9/Jeffelammar_SG009_AD2015_01.SAV
Turn 0: --
IBT: India loses a ship to a sub and then kills the sub. A small invasion force walks into Spain.
Turn 1: Bombard, clean up pollution.
IBT: India loses a ship and kills a sub. The invaders retreat and new ones come. Learn future tech 1.
Turn 2: Bombard.
IBT: Nothing
Turn 3: Sell a library.
IBT: Lose a ship. Barcelona flips to us and I refuse it.
Turn 4: Bombard.
IBT: India lands invasion force.
Turn 5: Bombard.
IBT: Nothing
Turn 6: Bombard. We shoot down an Indian interceptor while bombing a ship. I didnt think they had any fighters, but evidently they did. Sell another library.
IBT: They bombard.
Turn 7: Bombard, clean up pollution
IBT: They bombard.
Turn 8: Bombard
IBT: They bombard
Turn 9: Same
Turn 10: Same
Nothing exciting to report.
TimBentley
Deity
100K is going to be impossible; other than that, that sounds good.denyd said:
denyd
Emperor
I'm hoping to grab a set tonight
Is Gandhi lacking anything to build the SS?
At last check he had rubber, uranium & aluminum. I don't think oil is required.
Also why hasn't he started the Manhattan Project?
Is Gandhi lacking anything to build the SS?
At last check he had rubber, uranium & aluminum. I don't think oil is required.
Also why hasn't he started the Manhattan Project?
denyd
Emperor
OK - I got it and am playing now - I'll post in a couple of hours
denyd
Emperor
http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/sgotm9/Jeffelammar_SG009_AD2025_01.SAV
Turn Log 9
Turn 0 2015 AD Send two teams of workers, one in Spain and one in our old home to clean up Indian pollution Use a Nuclear Sub to sink a galleon Note that India has 142 TOW units & 78 Mech Infantry Raise the luxury rate to 50% just because
IBT: Absorb some bombardment
Turn 1 2016 AD Clean up some pollution Remove some invaders from our lands Sink another Galleon
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 2 2017 AD Clean some pollution Kill an invader
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 3 2018 AD Clean pollution Clear path for workers Kill an invader & 2 AEGIS
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 4 2019 AD Clear pollution Kill a couple invaders & a pair of AEGIS
IBT: Trade 5000g to Celts for ROP
Turn 5 2020 AD Celts bought something from India (who now has 5000g) Kill an invader Plow the road for some workers
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 6 2021 AD Clean up pollution
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 7 2022 AD Clean up some pollution and some damaged tiles on the home island Im setting up and Invasion Force in case we decide to use it. Location: Next to Entremont Note: the treasury has topped 100,000g
IBT: Lots of Indian naval action around Delhi
Turn 8 2023 AD Clean up Pollution
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 9 2024 AD Move to pollution tiles
IBT: Lose our Battleship heading for the convey
Turn 10 2025 AD Revenge on the AEGIS who sunk the BB
The Invasion Fleet consists of:
2 Aircraft Carriers w/ 8 Stealth Bombers
2 Transports with 5 Marines, 1 Infantry Army, 1 Mobile SAM & 1 Mechanized Infantry
4 AEGIS Cruisers
1 Nuclear Submarine
Enjoy your new toys
BTW: No sign of Gandhi building a SS with 25 turns to go
Note that we are 17 tiles from Domination with 2 expansions next turn
Also note we have 104,585g in the bank
With only 3 turnsets to go, this is probably my last turn set on this one.
Thanks to all members of Team Jeffelammar for a great couple of SGOTMs
Turn Log 9
Turn 0 2015 AD Send two teams of workers, one in Spain and one in our old home to clean up Indian pollution Use a Nuclear Sub to sink a galleon Note that India has 142 TOW units & 78 Mech Infantry Raise the luxury rate to 50% just because
IBT: Absorb some bombardment
Turn 1 2016 AD Clean up some pollution Remove some invaders from our lands Sink another Galleon
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 2 2017 AD Clean some pollution Kill an invader
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 3 2018 AD Clean pollution Clear path for workers Kill an invader & 2 AEGIS
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 4 2019 AD Clear pollution Kill a couple invaders & a pair of AEGIS
IBT: Trade 5000g to Celts for ROP
Turn 5 2020 AD Celts bought something from India (who now has 5000g) Kill an invader Plow the road for some workers
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 6 2021 AD Clean up pollution
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 7 2022 AD Clean up some pollution and some damaged tiles on the home island Im setting up and Invasion Force in case we decide to use it. Location: Next to Entremont Note: the treasury has topped 100,000g
IBT: Lots of Indian naval action around Delhi
Turn 8 2023 AD Clean up Pollution
IBT: ZZZ
Turn 9 2024 AD Move to pollution tiles
IBT: Lose our Battleship heading for the convey
Turn 10 2025 AD Revenge on the AEGIS who sunk the BB
The Invasion Fleet consists of:
2 Aircraft Carriers w/ 8 Stealth Bombers
2 Transports with 5 Marines, 1 Infantry Army, 1 Mobile SAM & 1 Mechanized Infantry
4 AEGIS Cruisers
1 Nuclear Submarine
Enjoy your new toys
BTW: No sign of Gandhi building a SS with 25 turns to go
Note that we are 17 tiles from Domination with 2 expansions next turn
Also note we have 104,585g in the bank
With only 3 turnsets to go, this is probably my last turn set on this one.
Thanks to all members of Team Jeffelammar for a great couple of SGOTMs
jeffelammar
Space for rent
OK I have it for playing right now.
jeffelammar
Space for rent
The save
Turn 0 - 2025 AD
Log in and take a look around. Looks much like last time I saw it. I think this
one is out of our hands.
Basic plans.
1. Get our units out of India, gifting the workers. (We can build more)
2. Start on Manhattan toward the end of my turnset so we can crank out enough
nukes to send Ghandi to space.
3. This will let Ghandi have oil again when he hooks it up. While this could
get annoying, It shouldn't hurt much.
Verify Domination Limit. 3 expansions in my turn set, but only 4 squares
gained, so should be safe.
Not much to change...
Lose battleship ibt.
Turn 1 - 2026 AD
Bit more cleaning of pollution before moving out...
OOps failed to notice impending invasion. Lose city to india. Take it back next
turn.
Turn 2 - 2027 AD
Retake Malibu, continue moving out of India.
Turn 3 - 2028 AD
Little more Indian Cleanup on the way out. India has gotten a slave to start
roading their oil.
Delhi finishes Apollo in 2 more turns. Curious to see what's next for the
Celts.
Turn 4 - 2029 AD
As has been the case for the last 100 years, India bombs us with Aegis and
Destroyers.
Because I can, I give Miniaturization to the Celts...
Ibt get the Mandatory Retirement in 2050 Message
Turn 5 - 2030 AD
All troops are out of India. Let's see what he's up to... (Ahh I wish CivAssist
could be used to quick investigate all cities)
Shield counts are uncorrupted
New Svolvaer - Modern Armor (2spt)
Celtic Uranium - Aegis (11 turns at 3 spt)
Madras - Aegis (5 turns at 7 spt)
Bangalore - TOW (5 turns at 14 spt)
Calcutta Mech Inf (12 turns at 6 spt)
Dacca - Worker (3 turns at 1 spt)
Ganges - Aegis (7 turns at 11 spt)
Pund - Rax (27 turns at 1 spt)
Bombay - Mech Inf - (6 turns at 13 spt)
Karistad - Transport (17 turns at 5 spt)
Fauske - Hospital - (6 turns at 18 spt)
Risor - AEGIS - (2 turns at 60 spt)
Molde - TOW - (1 turn at 21 spt) - I hate seeing this the AI needs 2 shields to
complete. It is so bad at efficiency.
Hareid - Nuclear {NUKE-YOU-LAR} Plant (10 turns at 16 spt)
Stockholm - Nuclear Plant - (6 turns at 35 spt)
Oslo - AEGIS - (1 turn at 44 spt)
Channel City - Aegis (2 turns at 37spt)
Barcelona - Modern Armor (34 turns at 2 spt)
Trondheim - Colosseum (1 turn at 59 spt) -- WTH - He's building a Colosseum
when every citizen is HAPPY!!!
Stavanger - Jet Fighter (2 turns at 66 spt) - for a whopping 32 shield
overflow!
Aarhaus - (In the middle of the street) - Factory (4 turns at 25 spt)
Birka - Jet (3 turns at 30 spt)
Well, all that round of city investigation did was piss me off. I can handle
that he isn't pursuing the space race, but that he is such a moron in pursuing
any target is atrocious.
For what it's worth, Brennus switched to SS Storage after finishing Apollo.
Turn 6 - 2031 AD
Bomb the Oil because I can. Probably should have earlier, but oh well.
Send Ghandi a photograph of my butt.
Turn 7 - 2032 AD
Bomb Ghandi's Oil, publish photoshopped picture of Ghandi in compromising
position in all Viking newspapers.
Turn 8 - 2033 AD
Risor - another Jet
Molde - jet
Oslo - jet
Trondheim - another jet
Stavanger - stealth bomber.
Use the Internet to post slanderous slurs about Ghandi's activities with goats.
IBT: In classic AI stupidity, Ghandi finishes a MA in Barcelona, and suicides
against our MI, rather than trying to build up a force.
Turn 9 - 2034 AD
More moving around. Start Alesia on Manhattan for 2044 completion.
IBT - Interesting, possibly in response, Ghandi starts Manhattan in Trondheim
(14 turns) guess we'll see if he builds a SS part when we beat him.
Turn 10 - 2035 AD
Not much. Brennus doesn't need tech for more parts, so let him keep going.
I've been bombing the Indian Oil each turn
15 turns to go. It will be interesting to see what he does.
I'll be curious to see how Ghandi reacts to Manhattan. Perhaps we should have
built it earlier (though maybe the world would just be a nuclear waste land if
we had)
Turn 0 - 2025 AD
Log in and take a look around. Looks much like last time I saw it. I think this
one is out of our hands.
Basic plans.
1. Get our units out of India, gifting the workers. (We can build more)
2. Start on Manhattan toward the end of my turnset so we can crank out enough
nukes to send Ghandi to space.
3. This will let Ghandi have oil again when he hooks it up. While this could
get annoying, It shouldn't hurt much.
Verify Domination Limit. 3 expansions in my turn set, but only 4 squares
gained, so should be safe.
Not much to change...
Lose battleship ibt.
Turn 1 - 2026 AD
Bit more cleaning of pollution before moving out...
OOps failed to notice impending invasion. Lose city to india. Take it back next
turn.
Turn 2 - 2027 AD
Retake Malibu, continue moving out of India.
Turn 3 - 2028 AD
Little more Indian Cleanup on the way out. India has gotten a slave to start
roading their oil.
Delhi finishes Apollo in 2 more turns. Curious to see what's next for the
Celts.
Turn 4 - 2029 AD
As has been the case for the last 100 years, India bombs us with Aegis and
Destroyers.
Because I can, I give Miniaturization to the Celts...
Ibt get the Mandatory Retirement in 2050 Message
Turn 5 - 2030 AD
All troops are out of India. Let's see what he's up to... (Ahh I wish CivAssist
could be used to quick investigate all cities)
Shield counts are uncorrupted
New Svolvaer - Modern Armor (2spt)
Celtic Uranium - Aegis (11 turns at 3 spt)
Madras - Aegis (5 turns at 7 spt)
Bangalore - TOW (5 turns at 14 spt)
Calcutta Mech Inf (12 turns at 6 spt)
Dacca - Worker (3 turns at 1 spt)
Ganges - Aegis (7 turns at 11 spt)
Pund - Rax (27 turns at 1 spt)
Bombay - Mech Inf - (6 turns at 13 spt)
Karistad - Transport (17 turns at 5 spt)
Fauske - Hospital - (6 turns at 18 spt)
Risor - AEGIS - (2 turns at 60 spt)
Molde - TOW - (1 turn at 21 spt) - I hate seeing this the AI needs 2 shields to
complete. It is so bad at efficiency.
Hareid - Nuclear {NUKE-YOU-LAR} Plant (10 turns at 16 spt)
Stockholm - Nuclear Plant - (6 turns at 35 spt)
Oslo - AEGIS - (1 turn at 44 spt)
Channel City - Aegis (2 turns at 37spt)
Barcelona - Modern Armor (34 turns at 2 spt)
Trondheim - Colosseum (1 turn at 59 spt) -- WTH - He's building a Colosseum
when every citizen is HAPPY!!!
Stavanger - Jet Fighter (2 turns at 66 spt) - for a whopping 32 shield
overflow!
Aarhaus - (In the middle of the street) - Factory (4 turns at 25 spt)
Birka - Jet (3 turns at 30 spt)
Well, all that round of city investigation did was piss me off. I can handle
that he isn't pursuing the space race, but that he is such a moron in pursuing
any target is atrocious.
For what it's worth, Brennus switched to SS Storage after finishing Apollo.
Turn 6 - 2031 AD
Bomb the Oil because I can. Probably should have earlier, but oh well.
Send Ghandi a photograph of my butt.
Turn 7 - 2032 AD
Bomb Ghandi's Oil, publish photoshopped picture of Ghandi in compromising
position in all Viking newspapers.
Turn 8 - 2033 AD
Risor - another Jet
Molde - jet
Oslo - jet
Trondheim - another jet
Stavanger - stealth bomber.
Use the Internet to post slanderous slurs about Ghandi's activities with goats.
IBT: In classic AI stupidity, Ghandi finishes a MA in Barcelona, and suicides
against our MI, rather than trying to build up a force.
Turn 9 - 2034 AD
More moving around. Start Alesia on Manhattan for 2044 completion.
IBT - Interesting, possibly in response, Ghandi starts Manhattan in Trondheim
(14 turns) guess we'll see if he builds a SS part when we beat him.
Turn 10 - 2035 AD
Not much. Brennus doesn't need tech for more parts, so let him keep going.
I've been bombing the Indian Oil each turn
15 turns to go. It will be interesting to see what he does.
I'll be curious to see how Ghandi reacts to Manhattan. Perhaps we should have
built it earlier (though maybe the world would just be a nuclear waste land if
we had)
Too bad there wasn't a prize for goading Brennus into space.
Nice attempt to shame Ghandi into leaving the planet, but I don't expect that to work on a guy who walks around in a diaper.
So, all there is left to do is build nukes for Ghandi's 'going away party'?
Nice attempt to shame Ghandi into leaving the planet, but I don't expect that to work on a guy who walks around in a diaper.
So, all there is left to do is build nukes for Ghandi's 'going away party'?
jeffelammar
Space for rent
I personally am still very curious to see what Ghandi does when we finish Manhattan out from under him. We may get a space ship part out of that if we're lucky.
I hope we can get the last 1.5 turn sets done before the end of tomorrow. Can anyone play today?
I hope we can get the last 1.5 turn sets done before the end of tomorrow. Can anyone play today?
Here is the save: http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/sgotm9/Jeffelammar_SG009_AD2041_01.SAV
Pre-flight: I think I'll just let Ghandi have some oil, there isn't much that can really happen with 15 turns left.
MM to get Manhattan Project 3 turns faster.
ibt- Ghandi really has a lot of AEGIS cruisers...
Turn 1, 2036- Sending naval strikeforce toward India.
Bomb Ghandi for no very good reason.
ibt- Ghandi is building planes.
Turn 2, 2037- India has 0 space parts in progress.
Their aegis shoots down one of our stealth bombers. Locate stack of boats and sink them with the strike force's airpower. Not exactly the hunt for Red October, but it was fun.
ibt- decide I better turn off aegis bombardment animation...
Turn 3, 2038- The ancients behaved with such purpose! Oh, what purpose for us on this sea of modernity?
ibt- Ghandi's boats.
Turn 4, 2039- see turn 3.
ibt- Brennus comes asking for Right of Passage. Why not, it's practically the end of the world!
Turn 5, 2040- Ghandi has 0 space parts in progress.
ibt- looks like Ghandi is planning an amphibious invasion.
Complete the Manhattan Project.
Well, there are exactly 9 turns left. I've switched all production to nuke-you-ler missiles. Who would like to do the coup de grace?
Pre-flight: I think I'll just let Ghandi have some oil, there isn't much that can really happen with 15 turns left.
MM to get Manhattan Project 3 turns faster.
ibt- Ghandi really has a lot of AEGIS cruisers...
Turn 1, 2036- Sending naval strikeforce toward India.
Bomb Ghandi for no very good reason.
ibt- Ghandi is building planes.
Turn 2, 2037- India has 0 space parts in progress.
Their aegis shoots down one of our stealth bombers. Locate stack of boats and sink them with the strike force's airpower. Not exactly the hunt for Red October, but it was fun.
ibt- decide I better turn off aegis bombardment animation...
Turn 3, 2038- The ancients behaved with such purpose! Oh, what purpose for us on this sea of modernity?
ibt- Ghandi's boats.
Turn 4, 2039- see turn 3.
ibt- Brennus comes asking for Right of Passage. Why not, it's practically the end of the world!
Turn 5, 2040- Ghandi has 0 space parts in progress.
ibt- looks like Ghandi is planning an amphibious invasion.
Complete the Manhattan Project.
Well, there are exactly 9 turns left. I've switched all production to nuke-you-ler missiles. Who would like to do the coup de grace?
