SGOTM5 - Team offa

[Offa]

Oh, that's what you mean. I don't see the harm in uploading the finish save. I believe we are safe .

 

[WackenOpenAir]

Hi there,

I am gonna be on travel again between Januari the 24th and Februari the ~3th.

If sign ups for the next sgotm will be in that time, sign me up please !

 

[klarius]

Well, we should decide what version to use for SGOTM6.
I did initially think PtW for a bit more challenge.
There are two things speaking for C3C instead.

- Playing succesfully in PtW means tight RCP build and free palace jump IMO. Some of the team members may not like this, but with the changed rules on leaders, I think hand building the FP far away will let a team fall back in a normal big empire.

- There is the challenge by the CDZ team.
Especially Anarres posting that he wants to beat Team Offa. The different versions will play too different to compare.

I'm still open to play any version (even vanilla for the extra kick of absolutely unusable communism ).

 

[Offa]

I am also open to playing any version. I usually prefer playing PTW probably as I am more used to it, and dislike the republic slingshot in c3c, which robs the ancient era of some of its colour. At least that won't be an issue here.
It is a pity that the two versions aren't really comparable.

I do agree that a palace jump would almost certainly be wanted in PTW. If team-mates (that's you Gozpel) can't live with that, maybe we should try c3c after all.

 

[WackenOpenAir]

I would prefer to play the same version as our primary competition.

 

[gozpel]

I will never like palace-jumps, but if the team wants it I'm not against it. So let's jump palaces and do some ship-chaining and other stuff I forgot, but I know I dislike. That will teach me a lesson for my whining

I prefer PTW actually, with a lot of leaders we can rush prime culture wonders and stuff.

Also, when it comes to 100k, I have a fair bit of experience with that. But I keep that for the thread when the time comes.

 

[MOTH]

I prefer PTW actually, with a lot of leaders we can rush prime culture wonders and stuff.

lurker's comment: Actually, leaders will not be able to rush any wonders...

 

[gozpel]

Geez, I need to reread the rules. Ah well, leaders can still rush culture buildings.

 

[Northern Pike]

I know PtW better and prefer it, but my opinion should be discounted for the fact that I'm going to miss a good deal of the game. If the rest of you reach a consensus for Conquests, that's fine too.

As for Team CDZ, shouldn't they match our choice of version if they want a direct competition? The challenger in a duel doesn't get to pick the weapon.

 

[bed_head7]

I will never like palace-jumps, but if the team wants it I'm not against it. So let's jump palaces and do some ship-chaining and other stuff I forgot, but I know I dislike. That will teach me a lesson for my whining

Noooo! gozpel, stay strong! Whine all you want about palace-jumps as they were designed to be whined about by players like us.

 

[mad-bax]

The Jason date for PTW is 1270AD, and for C3C it's 1375AD if that makes a difference to your thinking. I am not convinced that the C3C version is easier.

 

[klarius]

The Jason date for PTW is 1270AD, and for C3C it's 1375AD if that makes a difference to your thinking. I am not convinced that the C3C version is easier.

I think that just shows the weakness of the Jason best dates .
But even if it would make sense, the variant (no better government than despotism) and the changes to the PtW/vanilla leaders are a big disadvantage for these versions.
Coupled with a 3 settler-factory start for a Conquests agri civ, I don't see that PtW/vanilla can come near to the date possible in Conquests.

 

[Gyathaar]

lurker's comment: The game will be much easier in C3C imo.. because of these factors:
-Agricultural allows faster expansion and growth
-Better taxmen and scientists (civil enginers and policemen is a much smaller factor)
-Mil is normally a disadvantage for this type of game, thou doesnt matter for Celts since they have a 40 shield UU
-Better communism
-Faster forest chops

If leaders in vanilla/ptw was allowed to rush wonders it would be much closer thou.

 

[mad-bax]

I think that C3C could be easier, but I am not convinced. The ability to have two cores may help PTW/vanilla , despite no cash rushing. Additionally the map is custom made, and other things may bear on the outcome.