Hey all!
Ok - so I've had a REALLY fun game going, one that kept me up til 4:30 last night, for which I am now paying with heavy fatigue.
In any event, I'm Peter, playing a 2-continent hemisphere map on Prince. My two co-habiting civs, Pericles and Sitting Bull, are Hindu - and though I discovered Christianity and Confucianism, I've been Hindu ever since Sitting Bull demanded I convert. So I did. Every city on the continent has Hindu, and the shrine is controlled by Alexander - which is looking pretty tasty.
At the moment, I have a pretty nice tech and military lead, but its 1860, and I think I let the peace go on a little long (there hasn't been any conflict between any of us on this continent the WHOLE GAME!).
Anyway - this extended peace allowed me to spam both confucian and christian missionaries, so that every city on the continent is now both Hindu and Christian, and I'd say I got to around 6/7ths or 7/8ths of the continent with my confucian guys before Sitting Bull closed our open borders (the only sign of discord yet).
So I'm a relatively new player, and even though I've put in mad hours for months, there's still little things that have escaped my notice that pop up from time to time. I didn't realize the cash of a shrine was dependent on the number of cities with the religion, and now I got a fully loaded (on this continent anyway) Christian shrine and a pretty good Confucian shrine.
But as I was spamming missionaries, I noticed that my job was made a bit easier - especially as the number of non-christian cities went down as the non-stop Jesus-love-spreading continued. So for example, when my missionary got to the farthest reaches of Alexanders territory I noticed my job was easier - a few cities I hadn't sent a guy to were already christian.
Now Pericles could have been doing it on his own, but I'm guessing it was the "spread religion" effect thats listed in the Shrine characteristics.
How does this work? Am I correct in assuming that this effect is more powerful the more money the shrine is bringing in (it did not seem to be doing as much of this when Christianity was not as widely spread)? How can you enhance this "missionary-less spreading"?
I had my christian shrine first, but I noticed more cities in my empire were "naturally" turned Confucian by this effect, and maybe only one (or none) were done in my own empire by the Christian shrine. What explains that? They were both at about the same level, why did the confucian shrine seem better at spreading within my empire at that early stage?
ALSO: Its looking like a Cultural victory is gonna be the way to go - but I need to move on Pericles real fast I assume.
Its 1860 - if I capture his shrine in the next 10-20 years, it starts at zero culture. I only have seven cities, so I'll need a few more to put in the three religion culture buildings in the Hindu Shrine city I capture - is there a point where its "too late" to build up the culture before the Time victory kicks in?
My plan is to run artists and send the great artists down there for some culture bombs to get it up the early levels quick - but how long does it take since its getting late in the game now?
EDIT: just thought I'd also share another "realization" in this thread, the power of the National Park. I basically just got used to thinking of it as a "health" thing, and didnt take advantage of the fact that preserved forests give you those free specialists. Well lo-and behold, I had a size 6 city with pretty good production, but poor food resources (needed to snag some stone and gold!) and it wasn't gonna grow any bigger. Other places were doing wonders so I had no need to really chop down the forests around the town. Luckily enough, I had seven forests around the city - with the forests preserved, this city (which also has the confucian shrine - man I was angry when the religion was founded in a size 1 city with poor resources about 2 turns after I settled it!) and now I got 7 FREE MERCHANTS driving up my gold.
I'm def gonna plan for a national park city in the future!!
Ok - so I've had a REALLY fun game going, one that kept me up til 4:30 last night, for which I am now paying with heavy fatigue.
In any event, I'm Peter, playing a 2-continent hemisphere map on Prince. My two co-habiting civs, Pericles and Sitting Bull, are Hindu - and though I discovered Christianity and Confucianism, I've been Hindu ever since Sitting Bull demanded I convert. So I did. Every city on the continent has Hindu, and the shrine is controlled by Alexander - which is looking pretty tasty.
At the moment, I have a pretty nice tech and military lead, but its 1860, and I think I let the peace go on a little long (there hasn't been any conflict between any of us on this continent the WHOLE GAME!).
Anyway - this extended peace allowed me to spam both confucian and christian missionaries, so that every city on the continent is now both Hindu and Christian, and I'd say I got to around 6/7ths or 7/8ths of the continent with my confucian guys before Sitting Bull closed our open borders (the only sign of discord yet).
So I'm a relatively new player, and even though I've put in mad hours for months, there's still little things that have escaped my notice that pop up from time to time. I didn't realize the cash of a shrine was dependent on the number of cities with the religion, and now I got a fully loaded (on this continent anyway) Christian shrine and a pretty good Confucian shrine.
But as I was spamming missionaries, I noticed that my job was made a bit easier - especially as the number of non-christian cities went down as the non-stop Jesus-love-spreading continued. So for example, when my missionary got to the farthest reaches of Alexanders territory I noticed my job was easier - a few cities I hadn't sent a guy to were already christian.
Now Pericles could have been doing it on his own, but I'm guessing it was the "spread religion" effect thats listed in the Shrine characteristics.
How does this work? Am I correct in assuming that this effect is more powerful the more money the shrine is bringing in (it did not seem to be doing as much of this when Christianity was not as widely spread)? How can you enhance this "missionary-less spreading"?
I had my christian shrine first, but I noticed more cities in my empire were "naturally" turned Confucian by this effect, and maybe only one (or none) were done in my own empire by the Christian shrine. What explains that? They were both at about the same level, why did the confucian shrine seem better at spreading within my empire at that early stage?
ALSO: Its looking like a Cultural victory is gonna be the way to go - but I need to move on Pericles real fast I assume.
Its 1860 - if I capture his shrine in the next 10-20 years, it starts at zero culture. I only have seven cities, so I'll need a few more to put in the three religion culture buildings in the Hindu Shrine city I capture - is there a point where its "too late" to build up the culture before the Time victory kicks in?
My plan is to run artists and send the great artists down there for some culture bombs to get it up the early levels quick - but how long does it take since its getting late in the game now?
EDIT: just thought I'd also share another "realization" in this thread, the power of the National Park. I basically just got used to thinking of it as a "health" thing, and didnt take advantage of the fact that preserved forests give you those free specialists. Well lo-and behold, I had a size 6 city with pretty good production, but poor food resources (needed to snag some stone and gold!) and it wasn't gonna grow any bigger. Other places were doing wonders so I had no need to really chop down the forests around the town. Luckily enough, I had seven forests around the city - with the forests preserved, this city (which also has the confucian shrine - man I was angry when the religion was founded in a size 1 city with poor resources about 2 turns after I settled it!) and now I got 7 FREE MERCHANTS driving up my gold.
I'm def gonna plan for a national park city in the future!!
