Skyscraper visuals show up too early.

[FinalDoomsday]

Good day all, once you reach the Modern era through tech or civics your cities change to a contemporary style with many large glass skyscrapers. The Modern era is marked in game as covering 1890-1945 I think the contempoary art style does not fit this period and the city style used in the previous Industrial era is a better match for the period.

Here is how a city looks in the Modern era in Civ.

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Here is how a city looks in the Industrial era in Civ

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For comparison here is London in 1890 the start of Civ's Modern Era

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I think the industrial city style is a better match for the period. The current style clashes with a lot with the gameplay when you still have field cannons and cavalry but shiny new skyscrapers.

It would also mean the Industrial style would get two eras to appear in whereas now it only appears in one, did you know the neighbourhood has a unique style for the industrial era? Its pretty easy to miss if you don't build them early.

It should be a simple change that would make the game more visually immersive (for me anyway! Haha)
Let me know what you think!

 

[8housesofelixir]

Second this. Glasspane skyscraper visuals come too early, IMHO they should only appear in the Atomic Era.

If there are Art-Deco skyscraper visuals in the game that would be a perfect fit for the in-game Modern Era.

 

[Mudkip1001]

This has always bugged me, however, I don't think it will be an easy change as changing one value in a txt file (I hope I'm wrong about that). The Industrial era is my favorite city style, and its the least shown! I want to have an industrial city with Industrial age wonders, and before they are done, I unlock Flight or something and boom! Skyscrapers!

 

[The googles do nothing]

Surrounded by perfectly maintained city walls too.

 

[FinalDoomsday]

This has always bugged me, however, I don't think it will be an easy change as changing one value in a txt file (I hope I'm wrong about that). The Industrial era is my favorite city style, and its the least shown! I want to have an industrial city with Industrial age wonders, and before they are done, I unlock Flight or something and boom! Skyscrapers!

I actually managed to mod it to not change until Atomic pre-Gathing Storm by going into the Eras.artdef file and changing one instance of "artera modern" to "artera industrial" it worked! But now the file has changed my simple little change no longer works infact all I can seem to do now is remove the industrial visual set not extend it to the modern era!

So it was a simple change but now it seems beyond my caveman understanding of modding if anyone could figure out how to change it now it would be great.

 

[Luxerne]

Yeah, it's a real shame that the industrial era cities are so short-lived, especially since they added that new industrial style when R&F came out. I'm always beelining Flight and Radio. There actually is a more art deco modern style that fits the modern era better, but for whatever reason it coexists with the glass skyscraper style and it looks like each civ got assigned one or the other randomly.

 

[FinalDoomsday]

Is there more than one 'Modern' style? It looked to me that everyone has the same modern style but theres just a large pool of possible buildings so it doesnt get too repetitive.

At least some of the industrial and classical era buildings appear in the sprawl. (thats a very nice looking city by the way!)

I think an art deco skyscraper style would suit America as a unique style for the later eras the Industrial style would fit just fine for the rest of the civs in the game though. Europe Din't really get into building lots of skyscrapers even today its generally pretty limited from what I've seen.

 

[AriochIV]

I think this is just a side effect of the mismatch between era progression pace and the date. I do wish they would change the scaling on progression vs. date so that a "normal" tech progression at least loosely matches the historical date.

 

[Zaarin]

I also wish that, even if they're not as narrow as the Classical-Renaissance architecture styles, they would keep regional variations in Industrial/Modern architecture: Hong Kong does not look New York City does not look like Paris. And yes please to Art Nouveau and Art Deco architecture in the Modern Era--Belle Époque/Fin de Siècle never gets the love it deserves, overshadowed by the Victorian era on the one hand and the Roaring 20s on the other--with the current International Style architecture appearing in the Atomic (perhaps alongside some other styles like Streamline Moderne or Futurism).

 

[Red Adept]

I also wish that, even if they're not as narrow as the Classical-Renaissance architecture styles, they would keep regional variations in Industrial/Modern architecture: Hong Kong does not look New York City does not look like Paris. And yes please to Art Nouveau and Art Deco architecture in the Modern Era--Belle Époque/Fin de Siècle never gets the love it deserves, overshadowed by the Victorian era on the one hand and the Roaring 20s on the other--with the current International Style architecture appearing in the Atomic (perhaps alongside some other styles like Streamline Moderne or Futurism).

Only if I can get my Bauhaus and Brutalism inspired buildings.

 

[Zaarin]

Only if I can get my Bauhaus and Brutalism inspired buildings.

I originally meant to mention Brutalism. I personally think it's hideous, but it was also important and merits inclusion. Civ6 (and the franchise more broadly) seriously underappreciates the variety of 20th century architecture. (As I've mentioned repeatedly before, I strongly desire a Frank Lloyd Wright wonder, which is perhaps more likely to happen now that several of his works are listed as World Heritage Sites, including what is probably his most famous, Fallingwater.)

 

[Amrunril]

I think this is just a side effect of the mismatch between era progression pace and the date. I do wish they would change the scaling on progression vs. date so that a "normal" tech progression at least loosely matches the historical date.

Personally, I'd just get rid of the dates here entirely. I don't feel like they really add anything to the game, and calibrating them in a way that's realistic but also flexible and works for all difficulty levels seems like more trouble than it's worth (also, having every civ world use the same calendar as our world is kind of strange when you think about it, especially given the calendar's religious origins).

I don't think that's the issue in this thread, though. The issue is that, regardless of the turn number or calendar year, it doesn't make sense for your cities to be full of modern skyscrapers while you're fielding an army of muskets and field cannons and have yet to research steel or electricity.

 

[FinalDoomsday]

Amrunril is right it's not really about the dates but what the Modern era represents in this game we can figure out what time period its meant to represent from the techs and civics that are unlocked.

Of course more architecture styles would be great but what I'm suggesting is simply using the pre existing industrial style for an era longer, something that could be done in a patch. It would look a lot less jarring and we'd get to enjoy the industrial art set for longer.

Having the contempoary style come in at the Atomic era would also coincide with the music change for the civs too which would be a nice bonus.

 

[Zaarin]

Personally, I'd just get rid of the dates here entirely.

They're good for flavor, even if they're wildly mismatched with tech/civic progression. However, I wish they'd be civ-appropriate. The Maya using their own calendar in Civ5 was a nice touch, and I wish other civs would use native or at least contemporary calendars (e.g., no Scythian calendars are attested, but there are a good handful of Greek calendars).

 

[Myomoto]

100% agree, it would be nice if cities evolved slowly by the number of techs/civics unlocked rather than all at once too.

I also believe great generals start riding a jeep by the industrial era - they should definitely stay on a horse until the modern era.

 

[FinalDoomsday]

I also believe great generals start riding a jeep by the industrial era - they should definitely stay on a horse until the modern era.

Yeah you discover combustion in modern so having jeeps before that is strange.

 

[Luxerne]

I originally meant to mention Brutalism. I personally think it's hideous, but it was also important and merits inclusion. Civ6 (and the franchise more broadly) seriously underappreciates the variety of 20th century architecture. (As I've mentioned repeatedly before, I strongly desire a Frank Lloyd Wright wonder, which is perhaps more likely to happen now that several of his works are listed as World Heritage Sites, including what is probably his most famous, Fallingwater.)

Yeah, maybe us cultural players could get the Guggenheim as a more powerful, later Hermitage wonder.