[SNEAK PEEK] GraveMod (a NEW ModPack for Warlords on the way!)

[Gaius Octavius]

Hitler's favorite religion is a spoof, I'm sure. Can't imagine seeing this.

(DISCLAIMER: For those of you who don't have a sense of humor... his Favorite Religion is merely a JOKE!)

Grave, what exactly will be the new wonders you are adding?

 

[Xequ]

lol ok

i was being a bit dim!!!

 

[Vrenir]

[bump]

I certainly hope that Grave is still around. This was going to be an amazing mod. My personal suspicion is that real life reared its ugly head and has distracted him for a time.

 

[strategyonly]

Spring has sprung??

 

[Grave]

I'm really sorry, fellas. I'm not "dead" (even though my nick is Grave).

I haven't had much time for working on this lately. With remodeling my house, playing with my car, planting a small orchard in my back yard, building myself a new computer from scratch and working long nights at work... I really didn't have time to spend trying to code the SDK.

Not only that, but I was starting to really get burned out working on it. I kept running into problem after problem with the SDK files, mainly because I was integrating Blake's AI into the code, which if you've ever tried merging any code with Blake's AI... it's a nightmare.

So I put the project down for a few weeks so I didn't get fed up with it. This project isn't abandoned, it isn't dead, and it's not vaporware. It was just on hold because I was really busy with various real-world things, and I was getting kind of burnt out with compiling code.

But I'm going to start working on it a little tonight. It would really help me out if there were any experienced C++ guys to help me overcome certain hurdles quicker that what my current experience level allows me.

Trust me, I really want to get this thing finished. I invested too much time since October just to throw it away.

So just to let you know, I'm still here. Sorry if it's not coming out as quickly as I'd of hoped. I'll try not to throw those "teasers" out there hinting that it will be done soon. All I'll say now is that I am working on it, and it'll get done when it gets done. I think when I finally have it up and running... the wait will be worth it.

(I hope anyway)




Grave

 

[Vrenir]

Is that the Better AI mod? If it is, the general suspicion is that the modders behind that are working for Firaxis now (since the 2.08 update included their work and supposedly Beyond the Sword will as well). That being the case, the latest version of their component should automatically in the released game.

If you need a break anyway and still have the SDK stuff, would it make sense to just hold off on the mod until Beyond the Sword in July? You could get all the graphic and stats work done ahead of time and compile the list of exactly what else you want to adapt.

Of course, I would prefer to play the mod sooner, but if it's going to take that long anyway... why let it become obsolete only a month or so after release?

 

[Grave]

There's another expansion on the way? Damn, I must of been away for a long time! I'll have to look into this.

 

[troyDoogle7]

that joke is in really bad taste......I have family that was killed by hitler, and I think its really offensive... Shame on you

 

[Chuggi]

NEW LEADER: Hitler! Yes, the most controversial 3D Leaderhead to grace this forum has found a home in my mod. The re-skin was done by myself.

Actually it looks like you've just re-coloured Elhoim's Hitler skin grey. You should give him credit...

 

[Grave]

that joke is in really bad taste......I have family that was killed by hitler, and I think its really offensive... Shame on you

And many people have had relatives killed by Saddam, David and Hirohito, Stalin and countless other Leaders in Civ IV. What's your point?

If anything, you should be THANKING me for doing that. See, if Hitler's favorite religion is Judaism in the game, then he would choose that as Germany's state religion more often and promote Judaism throughout the world. So in a way, the Hitler I created in my mod would, in a small way, would be trying to right the wrongs done by the REAL Hitler 60+ years ago. So instead of genocide against the Jews he would be spreading the faith across the globe! The real Hitler would be rolling in his grave if he knew about this!

But, if it will really really really make you sleep better at night, I really doubt I will keep that as his favorite religion when this is finally released.

Actually it looks like you've just re-coloured Elhoim's Hitler skin grey. You should give him credit...

Yes, it's a reskin... and the mod also isn't released yet. I haven't given official credit for anything yet because nothing has been released to the public. But thanks for playing!

 

[kristopherb]

So are you giving up on this untill BTS?

 

[Grave]

So are you giving up on this untill BTS?

That depends if I can get this damn SDK compiled correctly. If I can, I'll press on. If I can't, I'll put it down for a few months until BTS comes out. It all depends on the errors I come up with when compiling, and I'm not very willing to compromise content just to make it work, either.

 

[Grave]

Did I ever tell you guys how much

I HATE BETTER AI?




I hate it with a passion. It's the most difficult thing in the world to try and merge with. IT is the main reason why this mod has come to a virtual stand-still.

I'm about to give up on Better AI, so I ask you guys this...


Should I just say "screw it" and press on without incorporating Better AI, or do you guys like it so much that you can't play Civilization without it?

If it's the former, I'll do what I can to exclude Better AI until I can enlist the help of an expert SDK compiler. I can't do it all on my own.

If you guys want Better AI, then this project will be on indefinate hold, at least until the next expansion pack comes out.



The choice is yours...

 

[Vrenir]

I'd say just release without Better AI, then if you decide to update for the new expansion in another few months, it will automatically be included at that time.

Also, Amra's new mod version, due out in the next week or so, is adding in many of the extra religions that you are, and along with that supposedly new religion founding movies. I don't know if you have any, but if not, you may want to borrow those resources when they debut.

 

[Grave]

OK... I'll see what I can do.

 

[Gaius Octavius]

Better AI is nice from a player's standpoint, but if it means the difference between this mod coming through I say forget it.

BTW, Grave, what are the new wonders you will be adding?

 

[Grave]

Better AI is nice from a player's standpoint, but if it means the difference between this mod coming through I say forget it.

BTW, Grave, what are the new wonders you will be adding?

Too many to count, really. Area 51 and the Las Vegas Strip are planned. I'll let you know for certain once I get this damn SDK issue sorted out.

Give me a day or two and I'll try and get you a better answer.

 

[Gaius Octavius]

The reason I asked is because I have recently implemented the original Civ 2 and 3 great wonders, and I was curious if you had the same idea.

 

[Grave]

Really? Cool!

I haven't played Civ2 in like 10 years, or Civ3 in like 4 years.


What Wonders did you have in mind?

 

[Gaius Octavius]

Things like Adam Smith, Copernicus' Observatory, Theory of Evolution, Women's Suffrage, Hoover Dam (made from Three Gorges--actually the Civ 4 building art is Hoover, not Three Gorges!), Marco Polo's Embassy, etc. Most have graphics implemented too, either from other artists or existing in-game material. The effects need to be fine tuned, though.

See "The Lost Wonders" for full details.