Sorry CtP2 fans, but don't buy Civ3

[Dell19]

Oh right I thought you were being sarcastic...This thread has become abit pointless now.

 

[bvd]

It’s not surprising that most discussion of both versions of Call to Power covers only technical issues and criticism of the game’s shoddiness. The threads that can be found here are all a testament to the lack of effort and play-testing put forth by the game’s developers; they failed to make a strategy game, period. With any substantive mention of strategy, you’ll find remarks like “Build loads of cities, become theocratic and rush to Ecotopia”, “Build two Phalanx, a Settler, City Walls, a Granary, a Market Place, a Temple and pump out units” and others from the hard-core fans; nothing unorthodox like the approach players have contrived for Civ II. Of course, many of those hard-core fans ***** and moan about the imposed city-limit, the public’s general lack of interest for the game, etc.

Civ III, even before release, has a larger fan base than all of its spin-offs combined. Quality, gameplay and customizability, not hype and flare, are all that matter. Nevertheless, if the game turns out to be an overfeatured sequel, its sales will flounder. SMAC, on the other hand, wasn't a success because the game moved too slowly at first, was hard to learn and wasn't very adaptable for scenarios; other than that it was fine.

 

[Anielewicz]

Civ 3 is far better. CTP is a souless void.

 

[Dell19]

Civ 3 will not work, CTP 2 will work...Grrrrr

 

[Sha^ul Gar]

I could not possibly disagree more, the graphics from CTP II and Civ III are very different. the movement of units, city graphics, (differnt city looks for differnt civs!!) terrain and water are totally different from CTP II. If you are looking for a challange in conquering the world, well...Civ III will make you feel foolish...multiple alliances, (and your allies, as well as your foes, Honor those alliances! sending troops...loaning gold ect..) I've mastered CTP II...I can't be beat by it any more, (welllll...by the compter anyway.) but Civ III repeatedly stomps on me at chieftain level.

 

[Anielewicz]

Originally posted by Dell19
Civ 3 will not work, CTP 2 will work...Grrrrr

I pity you.

 

[Dell19]

Thats not making it work though!

 

[Immortal Wombat]

Originally posted by Sha^ul Gar
I could not possibly disagree more, the graphics from CTP II and Civ III are very different. the movement of units, city graphics, (differnt city looks for differnt civs!!) terrain and water are totally different from CTP II.

Its true. Pity Firaxis didn't make the Civ3 graphics as good as the CtP2 graphics...

 

[Martin Gühmann]

Originally posted by Immortal Wombat

Its true. Pity Firaxis didn't make the Civ3 graphics as good as the CtP2 graphics...

Yeah 8 bit and 255 color graphics for Civ3 cities and terrains in comparison to 24 bit 16 million color CTP2 graphics. Civ3 graphics are just bigger not only and that was it. And finally these graphics needs more space on your hard drive, because of an inferior graphics format in comparision to CTP2. My conclusion about Civ3 graphics in coparison to CTP2: They need just more space for the price of a worse quality.

Originally posted by Sha^ul Gar

differnt city looks for differnt civs!!

And this is new. Even Civ2 has four citystyles. Civ3 has five citystyles. And if you play one of the mayor CTP2 mods you have seven citystyles!!

And also from a look on Snoopy's terrain mod, I can't get rid of the impression that these terrain graphics looks somehow unsharp. And the thing about the tile improvement graphics looks somehow odd. Extra graphics for plains, tundra and dessert and the only difference can be find in the pixels for the egdes of Snoopy's farms. I guess Firaxis never heard something about transparent pixels. And this was one more effective method to waste our harddrive space, without getting a better benefit.

-Martin