Spain Guide

[hphamdmd2018]

I have just finished a game with Spain and find this Civ is quite easy to play. I will list the pros and cons and the build order when playing Spain.
Pros:
- You will basically have at least 2 capitals at the start (I will explain later)
- You will be the first to found a religion and enhance it
- You will dominate early and mid game --> Hopefully translation into late game
- Spain is the King on Duel, Small and Tiny map (Because the natural wonders is very likely to be located near your capital)
Cons:
- Depend on your luck

The build order is as follow:
Research pottery, then tech for luxury resources
Build Scout try to get the first natural wonder. If you want cheating, you can restart the game at the first time to rush your warrior to the natural wonders. You will get 500g to discover it and use this money to buy your first Settler (Thats why you have at least 2 capitals).
Settle the city 3 tile within the natural wonders. If it is a faith production natural wonder, make sure you have a citizn to work on it because it only takes 10 faiths to found a belief. Then choose 4 faiths per Natural Wonder + Spain's UA will double its faith generation into 8. If you get lucky, you can find another natural wonder and generate approximately 40-60 faiths in turns 10-20!!!. So you can found a religion in turn 10 and enhance it in turn 30.
I would recommend to choose the following belief
Tithe; Will help you generate enough money to support your military
The belief to purchase your military with faith.
If you follow this order, you will have a pretty solid military at turn 30-40. You want to conquer wonderwhoring civ or in my game, i m the wonderwhoring because I have 3 capitals (I founded 2 more cities within the first 10 turns). Research and bring out Catapults as fast as you can to take over the first capital then clear camp to build the relationship with CS. At turn 50-60, you should lead in the leaderboard.

It is very important to have a strong army with Spain because you can only have advantage early to mid game. You should send your army close to the Wonderwhoring Civ, wage some wars just to weaken them a bit. They are no match to given your faith production and certain belief

Overall, this is either the best Civ or the worst. I think Spain will always start close to a Natural wodner due to its start bias. So, just be patient. Play a game, scout to find out and restart to optimize your UA

 

[Resipsa]

If you want to roll until you get a Nearby Natural Wonder download any of the Spain files that have madrid sitting on Lake Victoria or Solomon's mines.

 

[dragonxxx]

If you want to roll until you get a Nearby Natural Wonder download any of the Spain files that have madrid sitting on Lake Victoria or Solomon's mines.

Maybe its a coincidence , but last two Spain games, I had NW within 15 tiles from my capitol without any rerolling. One of em, was the best game I ever played

See why

 

[Peter Sagan]

If you want to roll until you get a Nearby Natural Wonder download any of the Spain files that have madrid sitting on Lake Victoria or Solomon's mines.

Can you tell me where? Sounds like fun.

 

[Resipsa]

Can you tell me where? Sounds like fun.

Here's one

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=522445&highlight=Spain

Just go to advanced search only search CIV5 forums and type Spain in for the thread title

 

[Peter Sagan]

Here's one

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=522445&highlight=Spain

Just go to advanced search only search CIV5 forums and type Spain in for the thread title

Thanks!

 

[phillipwyllie]

I've been playing a lot of Spain recently and have found these tips to be useful:

• Your build order should be scout->scout->shrine with food focus until you hit pop 2 then it's production, you can go back to food once the shrine has been built.
• Don't worry about going into the red with unhappiness, just get those NW settled.
• I pick 'one with nature' pantheon, tithe, pagodas, mosques, and itinerant preachers. Once I enhance I buy a missionary to make sure my 2 other cities have my religion then I buy the buildings. The remaining faith spawns great prophets and they can be used to thwart any neighboring religion(s).
• Don't be too concerned with a NW being swallowed up by a CS, a great general takes care of that. Beeline Machinery and Civil Service and you can easily war(not monger) a neighbor for the xp to generate one.
• Explore all the continent before you re-roll, and check that coast, so a trireme must be pumped out sharpish.

 

[TamirLenk]

Use continents plus and reseed mod to roll a good map. Grab GBR or 2+ wonders and win game.

 

[dragonxxx]

I've been playing a lot of Spain recently and have found these tips to be useful:

• Your build order should be scout->scout->shrine with food focus until you hit pop 2 then it's production, you can go back to food once the shrine has been built.
• Don't worry about going into the red with unhappiness, just get those NW settled.
• I pick 'one with nature' pantheon, tithe, pagodas, mosques, and itinerant preachers. Once I enhance I buy a missionary to make sure my 2 other cities have my religion then I buy the buildings. The remaining faith spawns great prophets and they can be used to thwart any neighboring religion(s).
• Don't be too concerned with a NW being swallowed up by a CS, a great general takes care of that. Beeline Machinery and Civil Service and you can easily war(not monger) a neighbor for the xp to generate one.
• Explore all the continent before you re-roll, and check that coast, so a trireme must be pumped out sharpish.

What exactly do you mean, by : " food focus until you hit pop 2" ?
You have to lock all tiles you want to work and set production focus. Doing that, nets you free hammers when your population increases, as the new citizen is being sent to a hammer tile and he counts towards the production for the turn. So if u have a hill, u get +2 for free.

That doesnt work the same way with food ...

 

[phillipwyllie]

What exactly do you mean, by : " food focus until you hit pop 2" ? ...

You can't buy settlers at pop 1 so you want to grow to pop 2 asap.

...You have to lock all tiles you want to work and set production focus. Doing that, nets you free hammers when your population increases, as the new citizen is being sent to a hammer tile and he counts towards the production for the turn. So if u have a hill, u get +2 for free...

I keep on forgetting to do that.

 

[Gromitt Gunn]

I just started a game with Spain (Immortal / Continents / Standard Size) - my first time playing this Civ.

I lucked out and found Old Faithful on turn 3 or 4, and have Barcelona settled on turn 13. I've got a Tradition start running. I haven't decided yet what type of VC I want to go for, but seeing as Barcelona is next to both a mountain and Old Faithful, Science is looking promising.

I have some nice luxuries nearby, and my immediate neighbors are Rome, Russia, and China. My gut tells me that since I've found and settled by a Wonder already and have warmongery neighbors, I should do a 3-city tall Tradition start with a focus on faith/tech/defense, and then go exploring and settle whatever other wonders I can locate if it makes sense to do so - sort of a Tall foundation with some possible Wide outposts.

Is my logic sound?

 

[Gliese 581]

As long as you find a natural wonder to settle you can go straight piety if you want with Spain regardless of what natural wonder it is and what terrain you have since the one with nature pantheon belief bonus is doubled to +8 faith. Of course it works best with one of the faith-based natural wonders as you'll then get a religion quick enough to almost always secure a faith-building follower belief (and 2 if you want most of the time) which helps with the culture issue when starting piety.

 

[Tur4]

As long as you find a natural wonder to settle you can go straight piety if you want with Spain regardless of what natural wonder it is and what terrain you have since the one with nature pantheon belief bonus is doubled to +8 faith. Of course it works best with one of the faith-based natural wonders as you'll then get a religion quick enough to almost always secure a faith-building follower belief (and 2 if you want most of the time) which helps with the culture issue when starting piety.

This strategy is by far the best situation when going piety. I had two natural wonders in a Spain game recently (one of them was religious). I was able to get pagodas and mosques. Between the culture and the happiness from the buildings I was able to REX so much that the entire world went from friendly to hostile and declared war on me simultaneously.

This strategy can also work if a person gets desert folklore and has a lot of flood plains with any other civ.

 

[Calouste]

In most cases you want to settle your second city right next to the Natural Wonder, not one or two tiles away. Most of them are mountains, which means that cultural expansion to them is slow and it will cost 100+ gold to buy that tile. You want to be working that Natural Wonder from the turn you found that city.

 

[Gliese 581]

This strategy can also work if a person gets desert folklore and has a lot of flood plains with any other civ.

Agreed, although desert folklore piety opener is more of a gamble since it's a pantheon the AI likes to grab fairly often which can leave you stranded with a poor start. The one with nature pantheon is almost never picked by the AI.

I still consider desert folklore piety to be strong enough that I'll sometimes go for it with a desert start but having some extra faith generation from a UA or UB definitely helps push my decision-making in this direction more than if I don't have that sort of backup.

As for finding two natural wonders with Spain early on, that is pretty game breakingly powerful. Finding the great barrier reefs is a little silly. 1000g and two 4f2h2g4b8f tiles with the one with nature pantheon. Add the natural wonder culture resolution from world congress later and you add on 10 culture per hex on top.

 

[phillipwyllie]

Here's a pic that will make you quit:

 

[dragonxxx]

hehehe ) Nice one. But no need to quit, settle on the copper, dow em, train some units, and go shoot the city and its units. Sooner or later u are gonna get the great general and you can steal it.

 

[Tur4]

As for finding two natural wonders with Spain early on, that is pretty game breakingly powerful. Finding the great barrier reefs is a little silly. 1000g and two 4f2h2g4b8f tiles with the one with nature pantheon. Add the natural wonder culture resolution from world congress later and you add on 10 culture per hex on top.

Two natural wonders within reasonable range is not every game for me. Often I just get one. I have also never once found great barrier with Spain. Not sure why. Bad luck I guess.

 

[joncnunn]

Two natural wonders within reasonable range is not every game for me. Often I just get one. I have also never once found great barrier with Spain. Not sure why. Bad luck I guess.

Unless you really enjoy curve stomp battle, your better off without great barrier so close you can settle it early. It amounts to an instant "I win" button.