Speed of Building
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Tomoyo
Fate
Shields per turn.
A unit costs X shields. A city 'produces' Y shields per turn. If x=10, and y=5, a unit will be produced in 2 turns (10 shields / 5 per turn = 2).
Sargon of Agade
Lvl 40 Troll Shaman
I have heard this rumor from the friend I play hot-seat with that if you go to war(and/or mobolize) all your buildings and wonders increase in cost... Is that true, through experience I have not seen that to be the case, so that is why I ask all of you. Thanks, SoA
Sargon of Agade said:
Actually, they can decrease.
In war mobilization, any tile produces an extra shield - thereby gaining you up to 21 new shields. However, you can only build military units, improvements, and wonders (like the UN, Manhattan Project, etc).
bingen
Prince
There used to be a bug with mobilization that could make you gain limitless production. I don't know exactly how it worked. I think it is fixed now.
Scuffer
Scuffer says...
Just thinking about this now. If you are at war and you are in representative government, you will get war weariness. If you have the governor manage happiness, you will not be checking your cities, and over time it is quite likely that lots of entertainers will be around. As there will be no riots, you won't ever notice this. Less tiles will be worked, which also reduces the benefit of mobilization.
Conclusion: If you do use the governor to manage happiness, check cities yourself every now and again.
Conclusion: If you do use the governor to manage happiness, check cities yourself every now and again.
punkbass2000
Des An artiste
Ginger_Ale said:
No, they can't.
You only get the extra shields if you're producing a military unit (this even excludes some unit you can build during mobilization, like settlers/workers).
jeffelammar
Space for rent
1. All shield costs for building things are static except for the Palace.Sargon of Agade said:
The Palace's cost varies based on the number of cities that you have. I can't find the link, but the two main parameters are the number of cities you have and the Optimal City Number for your map/difficulty.
2. The only other exception is traits. Many traits halve the cost of certain improvements, but this never changes during a game.
3. MANY things change the number of shields that a city produces. Among them.
Corruption - creates wasted (red) shields
Golden Age - Increases the number of shields produced in a city.
Factory - Multiplies the base shield.
Mobilization - Increases shields produced, but as stated before, limits WHAT you can build.
When you mobilize, your city produces more shields, but those shields only apply to certain things that you build.
So in summary.
The cost never changes (except the palace)
punkbass2000 said:
Yes they can. The wonder and improvement costs (which is what I was talking about) will decrease because you will gain extra shields.
Do you see what I am saying?
punkbass2000
Des An artiste
Ginger_Ale said:
Not at all. Are you saying 'wonder and improvement costs' meaning something other than shields? You will not gain extra shields. Unless you're refering to some sort of tradeoff where faster units somehow equals cheaper buildings in a sort of non-linear way that I'm not following.
punkbass2000 said:
I'm saying that improvements and wonders that can be built in mobilization will be built quicker than in non-mobilization because you gain a shield in a tile that produces one. So the time it takes to build them can be decreasing (*NOT* the actually costs themselves, just the time it takes).
punkbass2000
Des An artiste
punkbass2000 said:
Sorry to quote myself.
You can also build a limited amount of wonders.
Glad to see we understand each other..
Glad to see we understand each other..
punkbass2000
Des An artiste
Ginger_Ale said:
Yes, but with no shield bonus.
I don't think that's the case.
Xerol
Emperor
Ok, suppose you make $20/week washing dishes, and are saving up for a schweeeeet new Yamaha Keyboard with that pitch bend wheel you've always wanted. It's $200. Now, suppose you also start mowing lawns for $20/week. Does this make the keyboard any cheaper because you can buy it sooner? No.
My final statement after all this confusion:
Mobilization *can* speed up building time because it adds up to 21 shields to a city's output because of the Mobilization bonus. It does *not* make buildings cheaper. However, you *can* construction buildings quicker.
@JMK: Hehe. *sighs* Now to leave this thread forever...
Mobilization *can* speed up building time because it adds up to 21 shields to a city's output because of the Mobilization bonus. It does *not* make buildings cheaper. However, you *can* construction buildings quicker.
@JMK: Hehe. *sighs* Now to leave this thread forever...
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