staznes- From the Dawn of Time

[Finmaster]

From FNA
To Poland:
We are surprised and shocked that you broke a clear deal we made; we would get Norway out of Finland and you would declare war against Phoenicia. We will not forget this betrayal, and neither will our allies; you have made your future friendship with the rest of Europe a lot harder with this decision.

 

[Amon Savag]

Japan ORDERS
-UPGRADE army
-Withdraw army from Mughal territory
-Bring all but 1k of my men to the new borders we agreed on in China and fortify

China ORDERS
-Grow economy
-Send all troops to the new borders we agreed on and fortify (Half the gained territory from the Mughal war goes to Mughal...The rest is given back to China and Oman pays me an economy level.)

 

[Angelscotboi]

OOC: "Anti-Pheonician alliance" EQ? Forgive me but I find that immensly funny...You make it sound so personal, considering I was reacting to aggression when this war began.

Finmaster id quit b*tching about Denmark; they are smart people they realise the Vanguard will destroy them if they join you, so they joined the Vanguard instead.

Erez you are totally stupid; have you even LOOKED at that update? Azale has totally screwed me over! Not you!

 

[Oruc]

Nope!

 

[Finmaster]

lmsw I see no reason to stop b*tching about Denmark until they have been destroyed. Anything else?

 

[Angelscotboi]

OOC: Whats the point finmaster? Your not going to destory Denmark cos your um LOSING this war...and um correct me if im wrong but even if you throw your entire army at them it would take several turns to take em down, and even if you do; I will simply rebuild them after I destroy the FNA.
Do urself a favour; dont waste ur energy on the typing.

 

[Finmaster]

Azale: I noticed that in the update map, there are still Sicilian troops in Greenland altough the text part of the update suggests otherweise. Is this a mistake in the map? If not then I would like to know about it before the next update.

lmsw: we shall see...

 

[Death]

Orders

withdraw troops from mughal territory
increase economy by starting marketplaces all over the country

 

[Kamilian]

From Poland
To FNA:
The revolution that occurred replaced an unfair regime with a government that gave the people a say! The people chose NEUTRALITY! This is hardly breaking ANY deals that our country may have made with you. Our former Emperor apparently made that deal behind closed doors! Before any of us new government officials of the United Republic of Poland could find out and know the details. We did not know that our former government made this agreement until just now. So we ask you: what betrayal is this? Our people chose neutrality and you know that Norway's re-invasion of Finland was unjustifiable and opportunistic. Just because we don't want to participate in a war does not mean that we backstab everyone! Also, we dispute this claim of yours:

you have made your future friendship with the rest of Europe a lot harder with this decision.

While we acknowledge that you are very powerful and influential in Europe, you do not represent all the nations of Europe, nor do you control them. Who are you to say that we have jeopardized our friendship with the entire continent - with each and every nation of the continent? But then again, you say "future friendship with the rest of Europe" and since you are obviously the main proponent and propagandist of making Poland the outlaw of Europe every time we may not agree with you, does this mean that you plan on taking over all of Europe? Conquering the other Europeans or making them little puppets that do your bidding when you're a bit busy somewhere else? If so, then you are really no different than what you claim Phoenicia to be - a tyrant aggressor that wants to seize control of the European continent.
Now we do not want war, as we have already said and made clear with our decision to remain neutral but know this: if you get ANY of your allied countries to attack us, or even if you decide to have the fun of invading Poland again with your own troops, then we will acknowledge this as a declaration of war upon Poland by your entire anti-Phoenician alliance and therefore we WILL in that case side with the Twin Kingdoms of Eastern and Western Phoenicia and the Vanguard Alliance.

 

[Kamilian]

OOC: finmaster are you deliberately trying to piss me off and testing my patience? are you trying to make me make irrational, strategically-stupid, and self-destructive mistakes? or is it just one of those things that just happen?

 

[Finmaster]

From FNA
To Poland:
We kept our part of the deal we made. You didn't. If you don't consider that to be a betrayal, then don't. But we do nevertheless. Also, in this case we are quite certain that the rest of our alliance feels the same way we do, as they were also expecting you to come to our assistance as you had promised, which is why we dare to claim that your decisions are making friendship harder not only with FNA but also with the rest of Europe.

OOC: Are YOU trying to deliberately piss me off? That's the feeling I get after working hard to get Norway out of Finland.

 

[Azale]

@ finnmaster, yes thats a mistake, the sicilians are not in greenland

update tomorrow

 

[Kamilian]

OOC: please, finmater, you are the one that bribed not only norway but also denmark to invade finland. spare me the act of innocence and benevolence cuz you got the norwegians and finns involved in a struggle that was mainly between you and me. finland was sending a few troops to help me out (which i seriously did not use cuz i didnt know they actually sent them) and you apparently thought: "o wait i want all of europe to be on my side and finland is an obstacle. i know that i'll do - i'll pay denmark and norway to invade finland and blow them out of the water for good!"
so do not act like you were doing everything you could to keep finland alive, because you were the one that initially brought 2 other nations down on them. if you wanna use arguments to get me to see where you're coming from, do not bullsh*t me with the "working hard to get Norway out of Finland" because you would never have to work to get Norway out of Finland AT ALL if you had not bribed the Norwegians to invade Finland in the first place.
IC:
From Poland
To FNA:
Again, you seem to claim the right to speak for all of Europe. In case you haven't noticed, about half of Europe is either neutral, like we are, or part of the Vanguard Alliance fighting against you. And the decision to remain neutral came from the new revolutionary government set up by the people. Once the revolutionaries were firmly in power, the Committees all voted whether Poland should join the fray on your side or remain neutral. The Committees chose neutrality! That is internal policy, internal affairs which only became our foreign policy and foreign affairs when we openly declared neutrality in the conflict. In our new United Republic of Poland, the decision-making process starts as internal affairs - the Sejm, our legislature, votes, and once the vote is tallied and the results are examined, THEN it becomes foreign policy once we make a public declaration to the world (or which-ever countries we have contact with that may be involved). Do not try to meddle in our internal affairs. We know that our previous government did that to you once, though with initially good intentions, and Poland was reprimanded for that. If you do the same to us now, then you will just be a super-hypocrite and any moral or diplomatic basis you had for invading us earlier will be swept away, because you will just be doing to us what you condemned us for doing to you.
And, again, you seem to see yourself as the representative and actual ruler of all Europe. Guess again! You are not the master of all of Europe. Maybe you are the master of your collection of closely-grouped allies, but you are certainly not the master of Europe, and you are certainly not the master of Poland. We do acknowledge that not all Europe agrees with us, either. God knows we have all had differences, but at least we do not get so arrogant as to think we reflect the opinions and beliefs of all of Europe like you do!
Again, we do not want war. We are only stating the facts right now.
EDIT: spelling mistakes. this had to be perfect

 

[naervod]

The Siamese people had fallen into chaos, as factions were fighting each other. However, the wise king had a solution. He was aware that not everyone was happy with the absolute monarchy he had instated, but he wanted his people to be happy. He thought if the people could be represented fairly, they would be happy

To: Various Fighting Factions
From: King of Siam

Will you agree to set up a republic with me as a figurehead leader and all factions having an equal say in government?

ORDERS:
Switch to republic
Upgrade army

 

[Sheep]

Hawaiian Orders

Annex the Dutch South American Colony and the French African Colony.
Send the Navy to destroy Franco-Dutch shipping lines in the South Atlantic Ocean.
Begin Operation Argentine Unity (I will talk to you avbout it later)
Upgrade economy.

 

[Angelscotboi]

OOC: Since azale keeps dodging me on AIM. Im debating whether to remain in this nes or not.
Provisionally im still in but that remains to be seen.

IC:
Diplomacy=
To: Hawaii
From: The Twin Kingdoms of East and West Pheonicia

We suggest to you that you do not attempt to land in Africa, that French colony is about to fall to Vanguard allies; and if your troops land and get caught in the middle?
Well we do not wish to be responsible for a misunderstanding which would lead to the death of many of your troops.

Orders=
-I want my Armies fixed to the values they are supposed to be at azale; IE 3500 troops for West Pheonicia and 2000 for East Pheonicia.
-I want my conscription orders implemented already azale!
-I want you to follow my PMed orders TO THE DAMN LETTER

 

[Finmaster]

OOC: Kamilian, I have never claimed that I tried to keep Finland alive. But I do claim that I kept my part of the deal I made with you.

IC
From FNA
To Poland:
We attacked you once because your government was clearly turning hostile against FNA (the espionage missions proved that to us). We will do it again if you turn hostile against us again, since we don't want those attacks against our sovereignity to happen again, as you must understand. Therefore we plea you to keep the deals you make. That is all we ask from you. Also, notice that we have never claimed that we would own or rule the entire Europe. And even if we did - that is not the issue here. The issue is Poland keeping the deals it makes. Anyway, we believe that this silly argument has gone long enough so we won't be receiving any more messages from Polish diplomats regarding this issue. You have been warned now, it is up to your new (clearly anti-FNA) government to decide how seriously you take that warning.

 

[Jason The King]

Azale, is the front page NPC's updated, cus the map would like to argue otherwise.

 

[Angelscotboi]

OOC: If you are referring to the Noks jase then they r still there cos their army still exists in Pheonician borders.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

i think the map may be the wrong map, it appears to me that Sicilian forces are still in Greenland.