staznes- From the Dawn of Time

[china444]

From Michquelask
To Phonecia

I will make peace with you. I want you to have the capital of your nation back, so i will give that back. All i want is the lands in Morocco.

ORDERS

-Increase Army TONS
-If Phoenicia makes peace, give them back their capital and send some supplies to help them out.
-If they decline, continue to push into Africa and Spain.
-Continue Trade With FNA
-Increase the navy alot

EDIT: Post 1000! [dance]

 

[Azale]

its the right map, just the siclians are in it


jason, the NPC's are updated and you are welcome to join!

lmsw, I wasnt dodging, my AIM went out twice in the morning and I couldnt get it back on.....

 

[Grandmaster]

Update?

 

[Kamilian]

From Poland
To FNA:
Declaring NEUTRALITY in this war is hardly a hostile act towards EITHER side. Being NEUTRAL is hardly anti-FNA; it is hardly anti-Vanguard Alliance. But if you no longer wish to receive messages from us then so be it. This will be our last message.

 

[Kamilian]

OOC: Also, Finmaster, let me tell you a little something.
It is one of the easiest things in the world for a person to make a huge mess, but eventually that person has to work hard to clean it up.
You made the huge mess in Finland by getting Denmark and Norway to invade Finland, and now you're ticked off at ME that you had to work hard to get the Norwegians out of Finland? This was YOUR mess - you had an obligation to clean it up. And let me remind you that in that treaty of London that ended our war, it was FINLAND that had to pay the Norwegians and Danes 1 economy level each to get back the lands they have the right to own. So either way you made them suffer even more by making them pay so much for something you began (remember I'm not talking about the Polad-vs.-FNA rivarly here - im talking about the war in Finland). Next time before you get people to invade other countries, THINK ABOUT WHAT THE LONG-TERM RESULT WILL BE - FOR ALL COUNTRIES INVOLVED.
w/ that, i end this OOC message and if its too harsh then i have a reason to be harsh because i had a good-ass story for stjnes and it got deleted cuz of "too many smilies" (BULLSH*T!)

 

[Finmaster]

OOC: The only obligation I had to get Norway out of Finland was the promise I had given to you. Other than that Finland was my enemy and I wouldn't have cared about Norway's attacks against it. I don't see why I would have the obligation to clean up any messes for my enemies, which Finland was.

 

[Kamilian]

OOC: No! YOU brought Finland into this whole mess by paying those 2 countries to invade it. Those bribes came out of your pocket so therefore it was YOUR mess which YOU had an obligation to clean up. Had Norway and Denmark acted independently - not because of a bribe from you - then I wouldn't be arguing with you right now. But we both know that is not the case because they DID invade because YOU PAID them to.
Finland was practically neutral in the war UNTIL you paid 2 countries to invade. Because of that incident - and the fact that the Treaty of London made Finland pay the invaders to leave which was not very fair either - then it is only reasonable that they would be at least a little anti-FNA. I mean DUH! The FNA brought 2 pretty powerful countries into their land and then made them pay those countries to leave! So it would only be reasonable that, at this point, they would be at least a little anti-FNA.

 

[Finmaster]

OOC: Maybe it was my mess, maybe it wasn't. But a fact is that if I hadn't cleaned it up - what bad would have happened to me? Nothing. I had no legal obligation to clean up the mess. Did I have a moral obligation? Perhaps. But since when have people followed their moral obligations in NES's? I know you aren't following them when you don't keep your promises. But wether the mess was mine or not - I still cleaned up the mess, as I promised to do. And I assure that the deal I made with you was the only reason why I got Norway to leave Finland.

 

[Kamilian]

OOC: some of us change our minds when they realize what their initial decision could/would cost them, you see.
in case you didn't know, i just lost a war bigtime. i had like 6,700 troops before you invaded and now i only have about 4,000. i am not going to go to war again and lose even more.
but whatever. im sick of constantly arguing or whatever it is we're doing cuz its back-and-forth, back-and-forth and its getting boring, so yada-yada-yada

 

[Finmaster]

OOC: You see, you cannot change your mind about the deal AFTER the other side has payed their part of the deal.

EDIT: Yah, I agree about that last part, let's stop the spamming here.

 

[Kamilian]

OOC: ya let's stop, at least for now. i mean it is clear that we're NEVER gonna agree on this or other things, so let's stop spamming. interesting - this is the only thing we agree on

 

[china444]

FROM MICHQUELASK
TO VANGUARD AND HAIWAII

I will not give up this war. I will continue to fight.



NEW ORDERS

PMed

 

[Azale]

arrgh china, now i gotta delay the update again....

 

[amirsan]

Arrggh, why delay!

 

[Amon Savag]

What a load of crap

 

[Grandmaster]

Azale, I understand that China screwed things up with his new orders, and tha you're probably busy with school and stuff, but this is ridiculous. If we don't get an update within the next 24... to be generous, 36... hours I'm leaving this game permanently. No hard feelings, but this is too long to wait for an update.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

i know i just joined, but updates seem to take too long, besides it was a mistake joining an NES so far along in the game anyways so i think i quit.

 

[Amon Savag]

I'll quit if there's no update in 12 hours...With the lack of updates I've totally lost interest.

 

[amirsan]

They are right UPDATE!!!!!

 

[Kamilian]

azale. i delayed my updates in my NES every single time. that contributed to its quick downfall. i would not want the same to happen to this NES.
so start update now or today or at least delay it till tomorrow but then after that always do them when they're supposed to be done.
trust me - if you delay updates, your NES will not last.