Steam Greenlight

[GrumpyGamerLP]

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Steam Greenlight
Anyone tried Steam Greenlight yet? It is a new feature on Steam that let's you vote on whether a game will get released on Steam or not. I am addicted to it. It feels empowering for some reason even though my vote is only a drop in the bucket.

Here are some of the reasons I downvote stuff:

1) 8 bit graphics
2) game is an obvious clone of a much better game
3) game is "free to play" or more like "pay to win"
4) has the word "online" in the title
5) game is in pre-alpha
6) game is in a tired genre like match 3 gems or picture search 'n' find
7) the game is a stupid transportation simulation. anyone remember when Steam was flooded with dlc for these things? You couldn't browse games because you would have to dig through 7 pages of dlc for some stupid train simulator.
8) there is no video showing gameplay


What reasons would you downvote a game for?

 

[Sonereal]

Some games on Steam actually are F2P as opposed to Pay to Win. Tribes is F2P. Blacklight: Retribution, on the other hand, is P2W.

What is wrong with 8-bit graphics? Realm of the Mad God is awesome.

 

[GrumpyGamerLP]

Some games on Steam actually are F2P as opposed to Pay to Win. Tribes is F2P. Blacklight: Retribution, on the other hand, is P2W.

What is wrong with 8-bit graphics? Realm of the Mad God is awesome.

To each his own guy. Tell me why YOU would downvote a game.

 

[Sonereal]

To each his own guy. Tell me why YOU would downvote a game.

I don't have a fast and loose rule for downvoting. For instance, I will downvote most FPS games, but I actually like the way NeoTokyo sounds and looks. I will probably downvote any game that tells me the finished game is up on Facebook and if the game has a stupid name (Bighead BASH).

For today, this is how my voting went.

Black Mesa: Down (Looks interesting, but meh)
Kenshi: Up ("You're not special" is an awesome selling point)
Towns: Up (I'm a sucker for Dwarf Fortress references, but it looks interesting)
The Spire: Down (Standard)
NEOTOKYO: Up (I like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, and the music in this)
Y3030: Up (Has potential)
Windhaven: Down (MEH)
Incognito Episodes: Down (Meh)
BigHead BASH: Down with a vengeance
Lacuna Reaver: Down (Does not look awesome
OreSome: Up (Looks awesome)
Space Explorer HD: Down (so standard its almost cliche)
Wither Mind: Down (no video, screenshots, and the description is only two sentences)
Ludwig: Down (Decent graphics and sound idea, but not my sort of thing)
Routine: Down (First person horror? Don't mind if I don't)
No Time to Explain: +1 Up (forever)
Lost Story: The Last Days of Earth: Up (almost voted down because of the stupid name)
Shadows on the Vatican Act I: Greed: Down (point and click? lawl)
SkRanger: Down
Trap Mansion Down (Graphics+Top-down perspective=headache)
Puzzled: Down
Rotro: Down (looks awful and I don't see the point)
Yeah Jam Fury: Down (Yeah, no)
Itzy3d: Down (Forever)
No More Room in Hell: Up
Project Zomboid: Up
Dream: Down
Interstellar Marines: Down (Seriously, just say Space Marines. Clearly copying formula anyway)
Postal 2: (Lawl) Up
Miner Wars 2081: Up
Manor of the Down'd Damned!: Down
SickBrick: Down
POP: Methodology Experiment One: Down
Twisted Lands: Shadow Town: Down (if you haven't noticed, I hate point/click, puzzles, and riddles)
Dark Strokes: Sins of the Fathers: Down
Animal Space: Down

 

[Maniacal]

So you're downvoting Interstellar Marines simply because they don't have the most amazing title ever, and so what if they don't? The game actually looks pretty neat and the various demos they have put up on their website are a lot of fun. If you downvoted for names alone there a lot of games. What the heck is a "zomboid"? That isn't even a word and its yet another zombie game, yay. Neither is OreSome (cringe-worthy).

There aren't even that many games with "space marines" (excluding halo and a bunch of generic run of the mill console shooters no one really cares about). These guys aren't even full on Warhammer 40k or Starship Troopers (the book, not the movies), its more of a sci-fi FPS. its one of the few indie game submissions on there that actually looks like more like a "AAA" title than something made in someone's spare time.

I am very glad Valve took the suggestion of charging at $100 fee for all new submissions (that is donated to Child's Play). So many RPG Maker, flash, iOS/mobile ports and other very simplistic games on there (not too mention ones that are just bad).

I've got a couple pages of games I gave a thumbs up too, so here are a few really neat ones.
Legend of the Knightwasher - Its a game about a washing machine that becomes a knight. Looks kind of simple but it seems pretty well done, funny, and kind of reminds me of The Brave Little Toaster. Certainly more interesting than some of the indie games already on Steam.

Blockscape - Yeah its another Minecraft game, but this one is actually making some serious improvements that Mojang never will. The main feature I noticed is that it has numerous different block sizes and shapes, allowing for much more interesting and complex building designs, also furniture.

Silent Storm - I've heard a lot of good things about this turn-based tactical squad combat RPG game and it certainly has a place on Steam.

Routine - Pretty interesting looking survival horror game set in space.

NEOTOKYO, Cry of Fear, Black Mesa because they are mods and either look great or, in the case of NEOTOKYO, I know it plays really well and apparently has a new update coming after a lengthy hiatus.

Steam Marines - Steampunk/sci-fi roguelike in space, looks pretty neat and I have always wanted to paly a game similar to Space Hulk.

Air Buccaneers (although I already have Guns of Icarus Online but they both take a different approach to airship combat), Kenshi, Project Zomboid and Towns because they all are quite promising indie games too and Valve will provide plenty of backups and reliable money collection for PZ.

 

[lemmy101]

Project Zomboid: Up

Yus! Thanks!

Seriously, what the heck is a "zomboid"?

It's zombie with the letters oid instead of ie at the end. Like goodnightaloids or foodoid.

 

[Maniacal]

It wasn't that serious of a question.

 

[lemmy101]

What a coincidence, it wasn't that serious of an answer

 

[History_Buff]

Indeed, Interstellar Marines looks like one of the better titles up there by quite a ways.

All I really want is someone to remake Freelancer.

 

[GoodGame]

I generally wasn't down-voting games unless it was obvious they were nothing more than a story board idea. It didn't make sense to try to police it after it jumped from 100 titles to 700 titles. I figured nothing insubstantial would make it past a second vote. However, Steam wisely decided to charge money to "stem the tide" of low budget offerings. The cost of RPG maker software that makes all those silly JRPGs is actually slightly less than the $100 Steam will charge now, which will probably ensure that only better quality stuff ends up on Steam. Steam is kind of to blame though, by offering "professional" artsy fartsy games in the $5 and under category for a while, so getting 101 JRPGs made from RPG-maker kind of served Valve right.

It's pretty clear Valve intended for indie games that are mostly complete, semi-modern, and self-published (e.g. Terraria) to have a chance to end up on Steam, but got every enterprising hacker to upload something to test the system. I reported quite a few bad taste items, including several Gaben games and a NAZI rape storyboard. I guess Valve was distracted by running the DOTA2 International that they didn't do such a good job with managing the break-out of Greenlight.

A funny side-note is that a lot of low-budget GamersGate games are potentially transitioning to Steam through Green-light, so this is potentially monopolistic rather than "indie".

 

[Sonereal]

So you're downvoting Interstellar Marines simply because they don't have the most amazing title ever, and so what if they don't? The game actually looks pretty neat and the various demos they have put up on their website are a lot of fun. If you downvoted for names alone there a lot of games.

Plus, the rules on things isn't too clear. Since there isn't a specific amount of votes a game is supposed to get, but how much interest it gathers in relation to other games, strategic downvoting is a sound idea.

Not to mention even if ISM is an Indie game that looks like a triple-A game, it isn't the kind of game I want, hence the downvote.

 

[Maniacal]

I guess I should change my vote for Zomboid then. While the number of votes is hidden, there certainly seems to be a magic number there since many games have a % of votes required achieved.

Although I don't know if downvotes affect the rating anymore.

 

[GoodGame]

If you downvote Black Mesa after something like 6 years of development, then you are evil.

 

[GrumpyGamerLP]

I noticed another change. Steam is not really asking you to rate the game like a critic would. Steam is asking you one simple question, "would you buy this game?' That is the one simple metric I use to vote for a game. If I want to buy the game then I give it an upvote. If it is something I would never buy then I give it a downvote.

So basically if you read my OP I am listing the reasons I would not buy a game.

There are many good games that I am downvoting simple because the games aren't my kind of games. I just try to remember that the whole point of Greenlight is to tell Steam what games I want to buy.

 

[Luckymoose]

Here are some of the reasons I downvote stuff:

1) 8 bit graphics

I feel sorry for you.

 

[GrumpyGamerLP]

I feel sorry for you.

If you like playing 8-bit games then good for you. Not everyone is a fan of 8 bit graphics. I don't pity you or feel the need to debate you or change your mind. To each his own. I will vote for the games that I want to play and you can vote for the games you want to play.

 

[MoonFlare]

La-Mulana is the only vote UP from me. Can't believe it was rejected... Sometimes Steam is going full reta-- with games it decides to publish.
"Let's reject a great game and get a piece of crap instead!" hurr durr

 

[Maniacal]

Probably because it looks like a "retro" 8bit flash game. I wouldn't pay a cent for it.

 

[MoonFlare]

The original version is 8-bit. It's a tribute to MSX. Steam rejected the remake which is 16 bit with 32 bit backgrounds. It's a very hard game that may take 20-40 hours to complete.

 

[TLF]

Democracy destroys everything by driving it to the absolute lowest common denominator.