Strange religion bug?

[piperatthegates]

With Brave New World, I've noticed religions get founded MUCH earlier. I've always suspected it must be the piety tree; however, this game I am playing on diety and it is turn 67 and Indonesia has just ENHANCED their religion, which was founded some turns ago. Now, an enhanced religion on turn 67 is strange by any metric but consider this:

- Sidon, a CS between indonesia and I (and therefore discovered by both), has a faith quest which I am winning handily, and yet I am 35~ faith away from my FIRST prophet. And this isn't some explosion of faithto win. I have had desert folklore from the beginning and rushed stonehenge.

- He does not own any faith wonders. I own stonehenge.

- He has not gone piety for the great prophet.

So, turn 67 with no faith, no piety, no wonders-- and yet he's cranked out 2 prophets? Surely this must be a bug?

 

[Miravlix]

1: He might not have encountered the city state, so he isn't competing with you.
2: Faith Ruins.

 

[piperatthegates]

1: He might not have encountered the city state, so he isn't competing with you.
2: Faith Ruins.

But I know he is, because sidon's border is 2 tiles from his second city and I actually met his civ on the border of Sidon, because it is between us.

Faith ruins is the only way... He must have gotten 3? or 4? or do they get multipliers on diety for ruins?

Thanks for the reply.

Edit: It's actually one tile away from his city...

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

How many cities does he have? he can crank up as many as what? +5 from a single city (+1 from Shrine, +2 from Temples, +2 from Policies with both Shrine and a Temple)

 

[piperatthegates]

AFAIK he only has two cities. I'm thinking it must just be a combination of a few faith ruins and some kind of bug that doesn't count it towards the faith quest from Sidon. It's just not possible mathematically to crank out the required 700 faith in 67 turns with 2 cities and no wonders/piety without a minimum of 1 great prophet ruin and some heavy diety multipliers for his faith.

 

[joncnunn]

Turn 67? Even in G&K that's really easy to get with 2 cities by then.

First tech: Pottery
First build after Pottery completes: Shrine

Choose faith producing Pantheon

Cash rush a Shrine in that second city.

 

[Maxym]

What level?

I think AI has bonuses to faith as well as science and production. I never thought at high level they would have to pay full price for religion. I think first prophet is 200 next 300 so all he needed was 510+. And then scaled down by difficulty level.

 

[Petiscator]

He could have also gone for a Great Prophet at Liberty.