Suggestions for Dynamic Names

[Sinsyne]

I fully admit this is motivated by my own attempts with the Egyptian exodites, but have you considered alternate names for civs that lose their core? Governments in exile has a number of examples, or a civ losing their capital could become an exile Kingdom/Shadom/as applicable.

 

[Genghis Khaiser]

-When a civilization except for Rome, Germany, Russia, Mongolia, America, and China controls all of its home continent’s core areas after the Industrial Era, I propose the name “United States of [Continent]”.
-How about Austria’s Industrial and Modern default name being Austro-Hungarian Empire? And also, Kingdom of Hungary if it has its capital in Budapest.
-Portugal’s vassals should be named “Portuguese [Name]” by default.
-Netherland’s vassals should be “Dutch [Name]” by default.
-Soviet Russia’s default vassals should be “[Adjective] Soviet Socialist Republic”.
-I don’t get Mexican’s communist name of “Anti-Reelectionist Mexico”. It has to do with the 1910 revolution, which was against presidential reelection, but I do not recall it being communist. Something like “Mexican Democratic Republic” or “Mexican People’s Republic” would make more sense there.
-Mexico’s totalitarian name is “Mexican Empire”. Ironically, Mexico’s two empires were far from that. In fact, some ideas I have are “Porfirist Mexico” or “The Porfiriate”, in reference of Porfirio Díaz (who should be a Mexican leader in this mod if not because there are two 19th century leaders already), “Revolutionary Mexico” or “National Revolutionary Mexico”, as a reference to both the Mexican Revolution and the PNR (National Revolutionary Party), later renamed PRM (Party of the Mexican Revolution), and currently PRI (Institutional Revolutionary Party).

In a more general thread I said something about that Autocracy should either give a republican or monarchical name when mixed with Representation or Egalitarianism (it is always a republican one), but here is the extension of it:

Republic (for those who abolished their monarchy before 1900 or never had any monarchy):
-America.
-Babylon.
-Byzantium.
-Greece.
-Harappa.
-India.
-Indonesia.
-Mali.
-Mughals.
-Phoenicia.
-Poland.
-Tamils.

Monarchy (for those who abolished it after 1900 or keep it nowadays):
-Arabia.
-Austria.
-Canada.
-Egypt.
-England.
-Ethiopia.
-Germany.
-Italy.
-Iran.
-Japan.
-Khmer.
-Korea.
-Mongolia.
-Morocco.
-Netherlands.
-Portugal.
-Russia.
-Spain.
-Thailand.
-Tibet.
-Turkey.
-Vikings.

Special cases (these are based on governments throughout the 19th and 20th century):
-Argentina (Argentine Confederation).
-Brazil (United States of Brazil).
-China (Empire of the Great Qing).
-Colombia (Republic of Gran Colombia or Republic of New Granada)
-Congo (Republic of Zaire).
-France (French Empire).
-Maya (United Provinces of Central America).
-Mexico (Mexican Republic).

 

[Imperator Knoedel]

Seeing as Austria actually had a domestic fascist government in the 30s which paved the way for Hitler's takeover, Federal State of Austria would make much more sense if it's an autocracy than Austrian Empire.

 

[DC123456789]

Austria currently only gets the Austria-Hungary dynamic name if it's running representation, which I think is appropriate.

 

[Leoreth]

I dislike different rules for civs based on what happens historically. Names should be based on in game civics, rather than being tied to civs that have had those civics in actual history.

That said, I don't think Autocracy should be tied to historical monarchies at all. As I argued in the other thread, in my view these are two completely separate concepts.

 

[Genghis Khaiser]

Did some research, and apparently turns out I was wrong with Autocracy.

In the other hand, I have seen many countries take their standard name even when they are vassals. For example, Argentina being "Argentine Empire" even when it was a vassal of Russia.

 

[Shadow Warlord]

Did some research, and apparently turns out I was wrong with Autocracy.

In the other hand, I have seen many countries take their standard name even when they are vassals. For example, Argentina being "Argentine Empire" even when it was a vassal of Russia.

Vassals will only have vassal names now if they capitulate.

 

[FishFishFish]

How about dynamic names for new world civs if they are colonized/vassalized by ahistorical empires?:

Arabia/Moors - Ard Majhulah. (According to the historian Abu al-Hasan Ali al-Mas'udi, Khashkhash Ibn Saeed Ibn Aswad sailed over the Atlantic Ocean and discovered a previously unknown land named Arḍ Majhūlah.)

China - Fusang. (Mythological land that was supposedly east of China).

Mali - Boure Bambouk. (Some conspiracy theorists believe the Brazilian state Purnanbuco is an aberration of the Mande word "Boure Bambouk" and use it as evidence that Mali discovered the new world. Boure Bambouk means rich gold fields.)

 

[Leoreth]

For which vassal, respectively?

 

[FishFishFish]

Well Boure Bambouk should definitely be for Brazil.

Fusang makes sense for America since it is lateral to China.

Ard Majhulah is hard to say because it could apply to basically anyone but I’d say it give it to Argentina so it is possible to create a completely wacky Americas with German Columbia (Klein-Venedig) and Scandinavian Canada (Vinland) + Aztecs and Incas.

 

[psyblade]

How about dynamic names for new world civs if they are colonized/vassalized by ahistorical empires?:

Arabia/Moors - Ard Majhulah. (According to the historian Abu al-Hasan Ali al-Mas'udi, Khashkhash Ibn Saeed Ibn Aswad sailed over the Atlantic Ocean and discovered a previously unknown land named Arḍ Majhūlah.)

Ard Majhulah translates to ‘unknown land’, though. It is less of a name and more of an impression.