Sulla's Civilization IV Walkthrough

laylowmay said:
Sulla, great job.
I hope you are well compensated by Firaxis or 2K Games. Your walkthrough definitely persuaded me to buy the game!

If Sullla had been well-compensated for putting together this walkthrough, it wouldn't have the impact it does because it wouldn't be trustworthy. It's useful as a guide to the game, certainly, but it would be less useful if he had been paid to do it because I would have to put on my "marketing lies" filter.
 
eldar said:
Ahh, but score is based on population and territory. So the bigger you are....

But it's also based on culture. A small, peaceful civ that's been building wonders and expanding its religion instead of fighting would be disproportionately powerful in this voting, which IMO is exactly as it should be. In fact, instead of a flat cap, I'd just replace it with an entirely different system. Instead of arguing about whether Score or Population would be better, why not just make a new measuring stick? Define "Diplomacy Points" (DP) as some combination of population, wealth, territory, culture, good diplomatic relations, etc. and then distribute the votes accordingly. This should probably go in its own thread, over in the Customization forum, so I'll start one there.

Okay, it's here.

If you're going to cap the votes at some arbitrary level, I'd cap them at 33%. At 33%, you'd have no hope of ever reaching the 60% win without a good number of allies, AND no one civ could ever completely prevent a diplomatic victory from happening. Better yet, have the number of votes per DP be non-linear, so that instead of a hard cap at 33% or 50%, it's more of an asymptotic thing. Since it's all behind the scenes, the player wouldn't notice.
 
Come on...repost it already :-)

I'm dying to read what everyone is raving about!
 
I agree with Cyros2, zip it and post a torrent. There are probably enough people here to keep it active for at least a few weeks. After that it can be posted on a server again when most people have read it already.
I really want to read the last two parts...
 
I should've saved it when it was available yesterday. :(

Someone please check their caches and upload it.
 
Hey All. I've got 75gigs of transfer for the month, and I own www.civfour.com I was actually hoping to use the site name for something useful like this, or to setup a fansite (right now it's just redirecting to the official site) I'd be glad to host the walkthrough for as long as that bandwidth will provide (or host an archive), but I checked my caches and they've already been emptied. If anyone can give me a copy, I'd be glad to help out. I actually didn't finish reading it myself as I've been on travel.
 
The current plan is to have the Walkthrough back up again on some sites with unlimited bandwidth soon (hopefully tomorrow). Half of the Walkthrough will be hosted on a server run by the University of Wisconsin, and Thunderfall has offered to allow me to host the other half right on the CivFanatics servers. :) In any case, I'm working on it and hope to have things running again shortly (and this time, it should be on servers sturdy enough to handle the traffic!)
 
Sulla, thanks not only for an excellent walk through, but in dedication to seeing your work back up again. I wonder how many will save a copy this time around. I wish I had.
 
RuggeR29 said:
Hey All. I've got 75gigs of transfer for the month, and I own www.civfour.com I was actually hoping to use the site name for something useful like this, or to setup a fansite (right now it's just redirecting to the official site) I'd be glad to host the walkthrough for as long as that bandwidth will provide (or host an archive), but I checked my caches and they've already been emptied. If anyone can give me a copy, I'd be glad to help out. I actually didn't finish reading it myself as I've been on travel.

I checked out your site, and it looks awesome. Also, 75 Gigs of transfer for the month sounds like quite a lot. This was definitely a learning experience for me. My site recently went up from 14 gigs a month to 20, and I thought that was a lot! My apologies to the community for the site lasting all of about two hours before the traffic hosed it!
 
Sullla said:
The current plan is to have the Walkthrough back up again on some sites with unlimited bandwidth soon (hopefully tomorrow). Half of the Walkthrough will be hosted on a server run by the University of Wisconsin, and Thunderfall has offered to allow me to host the other half right on the CivFanatics servers. :) In any case, I'm working on it and hope to have things running again shortly (and this time, it should be on servers sturdy enough to handle the traffic!)

Good to hear! I'll still compile it all into PDF's and see about getting them hosted somewhere permanently. There will be a total of seven PDF files of roughly 2 MB each.
 
Sullla,
You mentioned you are hosting the site on UW-madison servers. Are you affiliated with the university in any way? I'm posting this from my office in the Engineering building on campus, so I'm just curious.
Great job with the walkthrough, by the way, at least what I got to see of it this morning before it went down again.
 
I have a dedicated server with 1000 gigs/mo bandwidth. I've had it for a couple of months, and so far I have used about 0.5% of my resources. I don't know how long I will have this server for (it's quite expensive compared to my 2gigs/mo usage), but while I figure all that out, I'll gladly offer some unused resources to Sulla or whoever for Civ-related sites. Shoot me a message and let's talk about it.
 
KingSponge said:
There will be a total of seven PDF files of roughly 2 MB each.
Hopefully it will also be in non-pdf format and multiple sections.
I downloaded the tech and gov't one but it was too big to deal with.
It took a long time to load each section as well.
Hopefully it will be faster on my civ4 computer.
 
corwin90 said:
'Primitive' PDF versions of the HTML walkthrough are available here until the "nicer" PDF's are created by KingSponge:

http://www.guybailey.com/sullla

If I can get the original web pages, Acrobat Pro 7 can do some nice size reduction and optimization. At this point it seems like there is great work being done on the hosting aspect. If we can reduce the size of the walkthrough without degrading quality, I think it would go a long way towards reducing the problem. Plus if it's all PDF'ed up, it could be thrown into the torrentsphere where it wouldn't die.
 
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