Switch 2 version confirmed

[Ordnael]

I don‘t see myself upgrading to switch 2 as long as the console is always at full price.

Never buy full price...and only pre order cartridges if you get a discount!
I bought the og special edition red joy cons Super Mario Odyssey Switch back in the far away Black Friday of 2017 for 330€ bundled with Mario Kart and pre installed Super Mario Odyssey. That was a good deal

 

[SemiLazyGamer]

Civ executive producer Dennis Shirk said that the graphics team is “extremely happy” about what they can pull off, because they, “were able to make (the game) look like a mid-tier PC, because (Switch 2 has) enough power.”


Shirk went on to say that the team found Switch 2 easy to develop for, and they’re also excited about being able to implement mouse controls thanks to the Joy-Con’s mouse-like features. All in all, it seems like Civ VII on Switch 2 will be the best way for Nintendo fans to play the franchise by far.

Civ VII team "extremely happy" with Switch 2, compare power to "mid-tier PC"

A civilized experience

gonintendo.com

 

[StargazingDog]

It's $10 for games with no additional content, like Metroid Prime 4 or Pokemon Legends Z-A, and $20 for games that have additional content, like Super Mario Party Jamboree.

I would assume VII would be the $10 upgrade since there are no additional content, but that would be up to Fireaxis and Take Two.

The post you quoted is accurate. Did you post your speculation as fact? I haven't found any official pricing for games outside of Japan. What is your source for these prices?

 

[SemiLazyGamer]

The post you quoted is accurate. Did you post your speculation as fact? I haven't found any official pricing for games outside of Japan. What is your source for these prices?

It's not speculation, but most folks have done strict conversion of prices from Japan.

According to Nintendo's Japan website, players who already own a game and want to upgrade it can expect to pay between 1,000 to 2,000 yen, which is estimated to equate to about "$10 to $15" (or the regional equivalent).

Prices will also seemingly vary from game to game, with the upgrades for Switch titles like Kirby and the Forgotten Land and Super Mario Party Jamboree listed for 1,000 yen more than Zelda: Breath of the Wild (potentially converting to around "$20").

Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Game Upgrade Pack Prices Seemingly Revealed (Japan)

Here's the estimated equivalent locally

www.nintendolife.com

If you are talking about my talking about VII's price, then that is speculation.

 

[Ordnael]

There's a very vocal, I assume, minority online moaning about Nintendo Switch 2 and game prices while defending the virtues of PC gaming, where a graphic card will set you in back in the thousands...or worst, to consider the Steam Deck a worthy option instead of Nintendo's old reliable hardware and most importantly IP!
My take, play what you want, I have entry level laptop for my old Steam library and a Nintendo hardware for Nintendo software and some games my laptop can't take in properly...like the day one launch of Cyberpunk 2077 with the Nintendo Switch 2.
Sorry about the rant...but the Nintendo aficionado in me just can't take this new generation of multiplayer, cutting edge graphics gamers calling everyone a pansy for not adhering to the church of PC mustard race!

 

[Siptah]

There's a very vocal, I assume, minority online moaning about Nintendo Switch 2 and game prices while defending the virtues of PC gaming, where a graphic card will set you in back in the thousands...or worst, to consider the Steam Deck a worthy option instead of Nintendo's old reliable hardware and most importantly IP!

Yeah, I also don't get the moaning that some games for Switch 2 now cost the same as PS5 games, as almost does the console itself. It's surely a steep increase compared to the original switch at release (and even more so in the US now as it seems), but at the same time, the investment still doesn't seem too steep. Especially not if I look 20-30 years back, where games (and consoles) felt much more expensive than they do today. And don't get me started on people that consider only PC gaming to be real gaming... poor minds, imho.

 

[notNamed]

Especially not if I look 20-30 years back, where games (and consoles) felt much more expensive than they do today.

That is a very subjective take.
There's a good reason why Switch 2 costs 300 dollars in Japan. Gaming has only ever gotten more expensive for them.
PC gaming, likewise, got out fairly badly. While yes, unlike for the Japanese it is comparably cheaper than when having a PC was a privilege of a few lucky ones, if you adjust your point of reference away from IT prehistory, most people grew up when it was cheaper than it is today. With hi-end GPUs costing 300-400 dollars and a game that cost 120 dollars because of some DLC scheme being seen as a freak of nature, rather than an everyday occurrence for any title that hasn't crashed and burned before it could make some DLC.

Does that mean Nintendo can't charge whatever it wants on its own products? Of course not. But some perspective is always good to have.

 

[Siptah]

I agree that there was a time, when gaming felt considerably cheaper. But I don‘t consider the 90s prehistory. And flagship Nintendo games, such as Mario 64, were sold for $60 back then. Which I consider much higher than $80 today. But yes, perspectives might differ based on age.

 

[StargazingDog]

minority online moaning about Nintendo Switch 2 and game prices

Switch 2 games could very well be $120 in Canada. Switch games are currently $70-80. The console itself is over $700 with tax with no games. All to play PS3/PS4 level of games in an LCD handheld? You can buy a PS5 for less, and it includes their console tech demo (Astrobot) for free, unlike the Switch 2. You can instead buy an OLED Switch plus two full-price games.

Nintendo is willing to sell Switch 2 to their home market for the equivalent of $450 CAD. Explain to me again why we are being asked to pay $629?

So, yeah, the price is an issue.

 

[fantsu]

Switch 2 games could very well be $120 in Canada. Switch games are currently $70-80. The console itself is over $700 with tax with no games. All to play PS3/PS4 level of games in an LCD handheld? You can buy a PS5 for less, and it includes their console tech demo (Astrobot) for free, unlike the Switch 2. You can instead buy an OLED Switch plus two full-price games.

Nintendo is willing to sell Switch 2 to their home market for the equivalent of $450 CAD. Explain to me again why we are being asked to pay $629?

So, yeah, the price is an issue.

Maybe you should not make huge tariffs to increase the prices then? And Switch 2 is PS5 equivalent in power, just more modern tech.

 

[Ordnael]

Switch 2 games could very well be $120 in Canada. Switch games are currently $70-80. The console itself is over $700 with tax with no games. All to play PS3/PS4 level of games in an LCD handheld? You can buy a PS5 for less, and it includes their console tech demo (Astrobot) for free, unlike the Switch 2. You can instead buy an OLED Switch plus two full-price games.

Nintendo is willing to sell Switch 2 to their home market for the equivalent of $450 CAD. Explain to me again why we are being asked to pay $629?

So, yeah, the price is an issue.

Playstation...not for me, don't care much about their exclusives, haven’t had a Playstation since 2 (which I loved) and a PSPGO (neat little device that still works fine).
Went the Nintendo way the moment I found out about the price of the PS3 about 600€, choose a Wii instead as No More Heroes trailers had got my attention but then Metroid Prime Triology made me fall in love with Nintendo IP, discovered some Zeldas...went for a NewNintendo 3DS XL instead of a WiiU, found about some more Nintendo IP I enjoy like Fire Emblem and Xenoblade...Got the Nintendo Switch in November 2017, went straight for the Bayonetta 1+2 combo...did you the Bayonetta games are also Nintendo IP...lovely, 3 is also pretty good. Astral Chain too! That being said about half the Switch games I own are Nintendo IP.
Anyway sorry for the rant...but you were being so passionate about your disdain to Nintendo's new hardware that I couldn't help myself to counter with some passion of my own...thanks for that
Games aren't just about graphics, at least for me.
And BTW a Nintendo Switch 2 will cost ya 450€ here in Portugal!...not that expensive when compared with Sony prices!
But hey you like PS5, yes? You enjoy PS5 please then!

 

[Buckets]

Maybe you should not make huge tariffs to increase the prices then? And Switch 2 is PS5 equivalent in power, just more modern tech.

He's talking about Canada. There's free trade between Canada and Japan.

 

[fantsu]

He's talking about Canada. There's free trade between Canada and Japan.

No there is not. Canada is a vassalage and a sub to US, and same tariffs effect both. Since the possible price increase for the master and apprentice.
"French of Americas" as they say, submit and never create a world renown brand.
Nintendo price increase aims at both, and thats fair. Maybe its not happening now as situation evolves by the minute.
But its the truth. Its about to happen while I am writing this.

 

[Marla_Singer]

There's a very vocal, I assume, minority online moaning about Nintendo Switch 2 and game prices while defending the virtues of PC gaming, where a graphic card will set you in back in the thousands...or worst, to consider the Steam Deck a worthy option instead of Nintendo's old reliable hardware and most importantly IP!
My take, play what you want, I have entry level laptop for my old Steam library and a Nintendo hardware for Nintendo software and some games my laptop can't take in properly...like the day one launch of Cyberpunk 2077 with the Nintendo Switch 2.
Sorry about the rant...but the Nintendo aficionado in me just can't take this new generation of multiplayer, cutting edge graphics gamers calling everyone a pansy for not adhering to the church of PC mustard race!

That makes me think about people denouncing the Nintendo Switch bad performance compared to their PC with their Nvidia RTX 4080. On Reddit, I recalled that the RTX 4080 graphics card alone was 4 times larger and twice more expensive than the entire Switch with its screen, battery and plugged joycons. I got so many downvotes that I had to delete my message.

I never understood why price and portability shouldn't be considered when mentioning the Switch performance. I expect it will be the same with the Switch 2.

 

[Trav'ling Canuck]

No there is not. Canada is a vassalage and a sub to US, and same tariffs effect both. Since the possible price increase for the master and apprentice.
"French of Americas" as they say, submit and never create a world renown brand.
Nintendo price increase aims at both, and thats fair. Maybe its not happening now as situation evolves by the minute.
But its the truth. Its about to happen while I am writing this.

Trying to figure out if this is sarcasm or not?

Either way, products from Japan landing in Canada (typically through the ports at Prince Rupert or Vancouver) are not charged any tariffs. These can then be shipped to stores in Canada, still no tariffs. Consumer products sold in Canada have to abide by our bi-lingual language laws, so products packaged for the Canadian market (labelled in French and English) are already segregated from products packaged for the US market (typically English only). Some products produced in North America get universal English + French + Spanish packaging and are distributed in all 3 of Canada, US and Mexico, but I'm not used to seeing that on products coming from Asia or Europe.

Products shipped through U.S. ports would be charged the U.S. tariff, but the easier approach for exporters will be to ship everything to a Canadian port, then send only the U.S.-bound product south, where the buyer is required to pay the tariff before they can then pass through the border. Or for something with as much demand as the Switch 2, split the shipments into their U.S.-bound and Canadian-bound components.

 

[Lazy sweeper]

likewise

I'm waiting for the Switch lite price to go down...
It's still higher the new 3DS prices... Oh wait...

I agree that there was a time, when gaming felt considerably cheaper. But I don‘t consider the 90s prehistory. And flagship Nintendo games, such as Mario 64, were sold for $60 back then. Which I consider much higher than $80 today. But yes, perspectives might differ based on age.

My perspective is very different - back then it was 60$ but for us it was like 200$ with some spare change...
Today 60$ is like 400$... 1$ today is worth half 1$ in the 90's... different countries... different conversions...
It was actually cheaper, in my perspective, much cheaper back then... All southern EU countries introduced the
Euro and suddenly a beer jumped from 0.50 cent to 1 Eur... 30 years after and our pays remained like before...
it was 400 Eur, it should have become 800 Eur... It is still 400 Eur... Unless your job is for some state department...

Same thing with games... they suddenly jumped from 50$ to 100$ in one blink of an eye... If you were in Germany, France, no problems there...
South of the Alps was a different story... (and East of Berlin) suddenly nobody could afford to buy a game anymore...
The PS2 survived bc CDs were cheap to make and sell, and Nintendo survived bc of the DS... all other consoles except Xbox failed.

Idk it feels like these 90$ Mario Kart games are made only for the "New markets", in Japan they probably will make a bundle with
1 year of free Internet with Switch2 and Mario Kart for 199$ in a year or two, a Switch2 Lite for 99$... We must pay 100% Tax on top of that...
and 20-22% on top of the total... Nintendo has nothing to do with it...
It's our beloved Border collection vampire gild that we have to blame...

 

[Gintama]

I do play civ games on PC and console....but civ 6 is my one of my favourite game when I go on holidays to play on my switch....although the game can be a slog toward later turns, i still like the game..

I do hope with this new version the game will have bigger maps, and in some way at least closer to the console versions.....

Still trying to figure it if I should buy this version and after the upgrade or just wait for the Switch 2 version.

Also I still don't play VII

 

[protocol7]

I wonder how much better Civ6 turn performance will be on Switch 2, I think I'd rather play an older game with nice fast turns than a new one with slow ones again (like 6 on the original Switch).

 

[queenpea]

I wonder how much better Civ6 turn performance will be on Switch 2, I think I'd rather play an older game with nice fast turns than a new one with slow ones again (like 6 on the original Switch).

I bought Civ VI on Switch when my PC at the time was struggling with the leader models leading to some fun, hairless leaders. Beardless Barbarossa comes to mind.

I definitely preferred playing the game on PC, but it did look better on Switch. By the time the expansions came out, I upgraded my computer and have stayed there since.

 

[Gintama]

I wonder how much better Civ6 turn performance will be on Switch 2, I think I'd rather play an older game with nice fast turns than a new one with slow ones again (like 6 on the original Switch).

I don't think it will be better, it will be the same (please someone correct me if I'm wrong) I'm pretty sure the console will not make "old" games run better.

It was not build to give a boost to software like the Series X/S and PS5.....only switch 2 edition games will have this kind of boost. In this case I'm really curious to see the difference of Civ7.