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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ecial-forces-parachuted-into-North-Korea.html

Army Brigadier General Neil Tolley, commander of US special forces in South Korea, told a conference held in Florida last week that Pyongyang had built thousands of tunnels since the Korean war, The Diplomat reported.


"The entire tunnel infrastructure is hidden from our satellites," Gen Tolley said. "So we send (South Korean) soldiers and US soldiers to the North to do special reconnaissance."
How was this allowed to be made public?! First question.
Second, what?! How had this not resulted in some news before this?!
Third, is the Telegraph a good source?
Fourth, why is the Telegraph reporting this, and not CNN or the NYTs?
 
Dude, that's totally nuts. That trips me out a lot.
 
Umm.... This isn't exactly news....
Well, I was unaware of it. I served as an officer, knew guys in the SF and guys that had been to and were actively in S. Korea serving... I'd never heard of us sending our soldiers into their tunnels.

Where did you hear about it?
 
The tunnels aren't news, but sending South Korean and US soldiers to scout them out is news to me.
 
The tunnels aren't news, but sending South Korean and US soldiers to scout them out is news to me.
Yeah, that's the part I'm talking about.
That's the stuff video games are made of...
 
Same article later on said:
"Some reporting has taken great liberal licence with his comments and taken him completely out of context," Colonel Jonathan Withington, of the public affairs office of US Forces Korea, said in a statement.

"No US or ROK (Republic of Korea) forces have parachuted into North Korea," he said. "Though special reconnaissance is a core special operations force mission, at no time have SOF forces been sent to the north to conduct special reconnaissance.

"The use of tunnels in North Korea is well documented," he added. "Several of the known tunnels along the DMZ are visited by tourists every day."

Seems like a non-story to me
 
I was expecting a funny picture of Kim Jong in an embarrassing position :(.
 
I was expecting a funny picture of Kim Jong in an embarrassing position :(.
At least it isn't the story of how many North Koreans will likely starve due to their drought and the recent missile firing.

NKorea says severe drought threatens crops, but US help unlikely following April rocket launch

If South Korean and US military are actually going into North Korea, that is an act of war. Can you imagine the outrage if North Korean soldiers were known to be infiltrating and spying on South Korea?

And this from the Daily Hate today:

Did U.S. send paratroopers into North Korea? Military accused of 'secret mission' to spy on nuke facilities
 
Can you imagine the outrage if North Korean soldiers were known to be infiltrating and spying on South Korea?
N. Korean soldiers are routinely captured going into S. Korea on missions.
Years ago it was often via SCUBA infiltration down the waterways.
Again... nevermind.
 
"Routinely captured"? Do you have a source for this claim?

Thousands of South Koreans go to North Korean beach resorts every year as tourists. The only people really beating the war drums anymore are US ultraconservatives for the most part. Most South Koreans want the hostilities to finally end and even reunify.

And the North Korean tunnels that are actually in South Korea are now popular tourist attractions as well.
 
Yes, the soldiers I have known that have lived over there in various decades.

I'm fairly certain this is another issue where you are completely out of touch with reality.

Only the US ultraconservatives beat the war drums... hahahahahahaha

Uh, yeah.
 
From the Mail (I know, but bear with me)

Today, The Diplomat, which has since removed the article from its site, issued a clarification of the original report:

‘In response to the controversy that has attended yesterday's story on North Korea, The Diplomat has sought corroboration.

‘While the author strongly disputes the contention that any quote was fabricated, we acknowledge the possibility that Brig Gen Tolley was speaking hypothetically, about future war plans rather than current operations.
 
... Can you imagine the outrage if North Korean soldiers were known to be infiltrating and spying on South Korea?

I have to agree with kochman, I've read many stories over the years about North Korean forces entering South Korea and Japan. There was for instance, the well-known incident of NK's entering Japan and kidnapping Japanese citizens years ago. NK boats and submarines have been caught in South Korean waters and on the coastline, and NK troops caught or bodies recovered. It happens often enough that there's little outrage about it anymore - it's expected behavior on the NK's part - why it's considered a bandit nation.

On the other hand, I've never heard of US forces crossing into North Korea except for the well-known incident (Aug 1976) of the two US Army officers crossing into the DMZ to cut down a tree blocking their observation- they were set upon by NK's and murdered.
 
I got news for you...the Korean war never officially 'ended'.
It doesn't matter as long as they have cease fire agreement.
There is no peace treaty between Japan and Russia after 1945 as well, it doesn't mean WW2 is ongoing.
 
Yes, the soldiers I have known that have lived over there in various decades.

I'm fairly certain this is another issue where you are completely out of touch with reality.

Only the US ultraconservatives beat the war drums... hahahahahahaha

Uh, yeah.
You mean like Bill Clinton, who did much to normalize relations with NK until warmonger GWB came into office, which caused most SK youth to actually hate him and US foreign policy due to irrationally endangering their own lives?

South Koreans Warned Anti-U.S. Tide Could Hurt Economy

Leading voices in South Korea called Tuesday for a cooling of the anti-U.S. sentiment that has overshadowed this week's presidential election, warning of a backlash that could hurt Seoul's security and economy. Websites, the media and the street are rife with resentment at South Korea's security ally of 50 years and top trade partner, influencing candidates' stances in Thursday's poll -- a close race which may hinge on how the country's volatile youth vote.

What sparked the upsurge in anti-Americanism was the accidental deaths in June of two girls crushed by a U.S. Army vehicle on a road near the border with North Korea, and a U.S. court martial acquittal of two soldiers involved in the accident. But the anger -- vented in some 50 street rallies that recently have drawn thousands more people than the presidential candidates -- is deep and broad. A recent Pew poll showed South Koreans hold the strongest anti-American views in Asia. Some South Koreans say President Bush's pressure on North Korea over its nuclear arms schemes is more dangerous than the failing communist state itself.

Many resent the high-profile U.S. Army presence, symbolized by a huge base in the heart of Seoul which broadcasts U.S. television on local airwaves and have called for a withdrawal of U.S. troops.

A campaign that has featured flag-burning, profane anti-U.S. rock songs and a threatened boycott of the new James Bond film deemed insulting to Korea took an ugly turn last weekend when knife-wielding local men attacked a U.S. Army officer in Seoul. Lt. Col. Steven Boylan, jumped from behind by three men who had taunted him as he walked home from work, deflected the knife thrust away from his stomach and suffered only a slight cut and bruises. The army imposed a 9.00 p.m. to 5.00 am on troops after the attack.

Sunday's attack on the U.S. Army press officer showed that a "poisonous atmosphere has been spreading like a fad throughout the base of the country's society," South Korea's largest daily newspaper, the conservative Chosun Ilbo, said on Tuesday. The daily sounded a warning that unchecked anti-Americanism would cause the United States to rethink its military ties with South Korea and remove the 37,000 U.S. troops in the country -- a worry voiced by President Kim Dae-jung and business groups. "U.S. troops should continue to remain in Korea. Their necessity is being acutely felt by our armed forces," Kim told South Korean soldiers Monday. South Korea's armed forces number 690,000, the world's sixth largest standing army backed by the world's 12th largest economy.
The vast majority of people don't like warmongering, especially those who would pay the actual price.
 
You mean like Bill Clinton, who did much to normalize relations with NK until warmonger GWB came into office, which caused most SK youth to actually hate him due to irrationally endangering their own lives?
You are so far out of touch it is laughable.

We almost went to war with N Korea, under BC, due to a downed helicopter.

How about that Obama guy... Or, let me guess, he is a conservative to you after all... hahahahahahahaha. He's continued the war drumming, and is in charge of not giving them food to subsidize the growth of their military further.

The unfortunate losers in this are, as since the cease fire, the people of N Korea who have to live under this tyrannical regime...
 
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