Xevious
1 Solvalou left
I won't have time today, but if it still isn't started by tomorrow I can start it.
Team Wacken monarch level practice game.
- Thread starter WackenOpenAir
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I guess it is up to you Xevious to start this one 
Just don't settle on hill and if you manage to save warrior until after worker is build i'd suggest start chopping a settler right away.
It would be nice to have 2 or 3 very early cities.
Just don't settle on hill and if you manage to save warrior until after worker is build i'd suggest start chopping a settler right away.
It would be nice to have 2 or 3 very early cities.
Xevious
1 Solvalou left
Still no takers, so I'll be starting this tonight.
Xevious
1 Solvalou left
Wacken practice SG
4000BC(0) Before moving to plains, move warrior NE to uncover some tiles. Don't see anything to make it worth moving that way, so settler NW, and found Beijing. There is another wine W of Beijing and a hut 2SW,W of Beijing. Will have warrior scout counter clockwise toward hut. Start worker and Bronze, both due in 15 turns.
3960BC(1) Warrior NW.
3920BC(2) Warrior NW, river cow N and hut on flood plain W.
3880BC(3) Warrior W, pops hut for 85g. Silks W. Looks like I've found a good second city location already (silks, cow, floodplain).
3840BC(4) Warrior SW, heading for other side of mountain towards hut.
3800BC(5) Borders expand, now working rice. Won't get us to BW any faster but will give an extra gpt to head start the next tech. Warrior SW to coast.
3760BC(6) Warrior SW, between coast and mountain.
3720BC(7) Warrior S, there's ocean fish off SW.
3680BC(8) Warrior SE below mountains.
3640BC(9) Warrior S, pops hut for experience! This will allow woodsman 2 for extra movement in forest/jungle, excellent for scouting. and getting back home.
3600BC(10) Warrior promotes to Woodsman 2. Warrior S,SE, finds sheep.
3560BC(11) Warrior NE,NE to get back to the forest and stay close to home.
3520BC(12) Warrior NE (now SE of Beijing).
3480BC(13) Warrior NE,SE.
3440BC(14) Warrior SE,NE, hut N,NE, silks NE,E, wolf SE,SE. I expect it to attack me next turn, so fortify warrior.
3400BC(15) Wolf attacks, warrior wins with no damage. Learn Bronze. Copper is 2NW of Beijing. Worker built, start Settler. Worker E. We are on river, as is rice and cow. If we settle up by the cow/silks we are still on river so we won't need roads too soon. Start Animal Husbandry. Warrior N,NE popping hut for 49g. Horses W, but worse, lion NW. Warrior is on grass. Fortify warrior, and switch to warrior in Beijing, working cow (8 turns) just in case lion kills warrior.
3360BC(16) Well that was a bit of bad luck. Lion killed the warrior as feared. Want to save forest for settler, so Worker NE, farm rice. This takes 5 turns, warrior done in seven, so worker can be chopping a forest when warrior finishes. Farm will add 2 food to rice speeding up the settler anyway.
3320BC(17)
3280BC(18)
3240BC(19)
3200BC(20) We need 5 hammers for warrior and 12 food to grow. With rice we have +5 food and +1 hammer. With cow we have +2 food and +2 hammers. If we work cow this turn, and rice for 2 turns, we'll grow in 3 and be one hammer short of warrior, which should come from the new citizen (haven't really checked to see if it works like civ3 in that respect).
Animal Husbandry is due in 6. Warrior should come in 3 (read above). Losing the warrior really hurt. Settler chop should be next and then pasture on cow.
4000BC(0) Before moving to plains, move warrior NE to uncover some tiles. Don't see anything to make it worth moving that way, so settler NW, and found Beijing. There is another wine W of Beijing and a hut 2SW,W of Beijing. Will have warrior scout counter clockwise toward hut. Start worker and Bronze, both due in 15 turns.
3960BC(1) Warrior NW.
3920BC(2) Warrior NW, river cow N and hut on flood plain W.
3880BC(3) Warrior W, pops hut for 85g. Silks W. Looks like I've found a good second city location already (silks, cow, floodplain).
3840BC(4) Warrior SW, heading for other side of mountain towards hut.
3800BC(5) Borders expand, now working rice. Won't get us to BW any faster but will give an extra gpt to head start the next tech. Warrior SW to coast.
3760BC(6) Warrior SW, between coast and mountain.
3720BC(7) Warrior S, there's ocean fish off SW.
3680BC(8) Warrior SE below mountains.
3640BC(9) Warrior S, pops hut for experience! This will allow woodsman 2 for extra movement in forest/jungle, excellent for scouting. and getting back home.
3600BC(10) Warrior promotes to Woodsman 2. Warrior S,SE, finds sheep.
3560BC(11) Warrior NE,NE to get back to the forest and stay close to home.
3520BC(12) Warrior NE (now SE of Beijing).
3480BC(13) Warrior NE,SE.
3440BC(14) Warrior SE,NE, hut N,NE, silks NE,E, wolf SE,SE. I expect it to attack me next turn, so fortify warrior.
3400BC(15) Wolf attacks, warrior wins with no damage. Learn Bronze. Copper is 2NW of Beijing. Worker built, start Settler. Worker E. We are on river, as is rice and cow. If we settle up by the cow/silks we are still on river so we won't need roads too soon. Start Animal Husbandry. Warrior N,NE popping hut for 49g. Horses W, but worse, lion NW. Warrior is on grass. Fortify warrior, and switch to warrior in Beijing, working cow (8 turns) just in case lion kills warrior.
3360BC(16) Well that was a bit of bad luck. Lion killed the warrior as feared. Want to save forest for settler, so Worker NE, farm rice. This takes 5 turns, warrior done in seven, so worker can be chopping a forest when warrior finishes. Farm will add 2 food to rice speeding up the settler anyway.
3320BC(17)
3280BC(18)
3240BC(19)
3200BC(20) We need 5 hammers for warrior and 12 food to grow. With rice we have +5 food and +1 hammer. With cow we have +2 food and +2 hammers. If we work cow this turn, and rice for 2 turns, we'll grow in 3 and be one hammer short of warrior, which should come from the new citizen (haven't really checked to see if it works like civ3 in that respect).
Animal Husbandry is due in 6. Warrior should come in 3 (read above). Losing the warrior really hurt. Settler chop should be next and then pasture on cow.
Yay!! we have the start...
Bad luck with lost warrior, but this should be expected to happen once in a while.
I reckon we want to put second city where Xevious suggested. As for exact location i suggest to put it such so copper is also in city limit. That will make a little overlap with Benjing but not too bad.
Who's playing next???
Wacken, why don't you set up a roster as a captain.
Bad luck with lost warrior, but this should be expected to happen once in a while.
I reckon we want to put second city where Xevious suggested. As for exact location i suggest to put it such so copper is also in city limit. That will make a little overlap with Benjing but not too bad.
Who's playing next???
Wacken, why don't you set up a roster as a captain.
WackenOpenAir
Deity
Ok, but i'm a lazy captain. I'd say lets play in alphabetical order, but Xevious started so lets do reverse alphabetical order
I notice Wotan is not in on this, so that means i got to play. Will do so tonight if noone has things to discuss anymore.
I notice Wotan is not in on this, so that means i got to play. Will do so tonight if noone has things to discuss anymore.
@Wacken: I guess not much to discuss so early in the game.
You won't be able to achieve much in 10 turns. Just settler that second city, warrior should be the 1st build.
Chop another worker and a settler from capital.
We will have to make a semi-urgent decision on cultural expansion.
Do we want to build obelisk (10 to 15 turns) in each new city or chop a stonehedge in just one? It is twice as expensive to chop it without stone.
In both cases we have to learn Mystisism otherwise we won't be able to use cities in full capacity until writing and libraries are built.
Roster:
Xevious - just played
Wacken - up
Offa - on deck
Gman
Dman
You won't be able to achieve much in 10 turns. Just settler that second city, warrior should be the 1st build.
Chop another worker and a settler from capital.
We will have to make a semi-urgent decision on cultural expansion.
Do we want to build obelisk (10 to 15 turns) in each new city or chop a stonehedge in just one? It is twice as expensive to chop it without stone.
In both cases we have to learn Mystisism otherwise we won't be able to use cities in full capacity until writing and libraries are built.
Roster:
Xevious - just played
Wacken - up
Offa - on deck
Gman
Dman
WackenOpenAir
Deity
We could settle on top of that Silk. Would this provide silk before calendar maybe ?
It would certainly be a better city position, with less tiles sharing with the capital.
It would certainly be a better city position, with less tiles sharing with the capital.
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
let's try it and find out. this is a practice game, after allWackenOpenAir said:
WackenOpenAir
Deity
Turn0:
Rice field is ready and put to use.
Turn1:
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Turn2:
Moved to using plain forest to make warrior next turn.
Turn3:
Warrior - Settler. Change to ricefield.
Turn4:
Forest cut completed.
Temporarily swich build to warrior to allow growth (1 food was needed)
Turn5:
Grown to size2. Swich back to Settler (don't you love Firaxis when they think of things to reduce micro management)
Turn6:
Damn, worker will have to wait 1 turn for Animal Husbandry.
Turn7:
Out new Warrior killed a Lion and now a Bear is planning to attack it
Those are too strong for our young warrior so i move away from it.
We now go research the Wheel, we want roads.
Turn8:
--
Turn9:
--
Turn10:
Worker still unmoved, we can still decide if we want to cut another forest.
Rice field is ready and put to use.
Turn1:
--
Turn2:
Moved to using plain forest to make warrior next turn.
Turn3:
Warrior - Settler. Change to ricefield.
Turn4:
Forest cut completed.
Temporarily swich build to warrior to allow growth (1 food was needed)
Turn5:
Grown to size2. Swich back to Settler (don't you love Firaxis when they think of things to reduce micro management)
Turn6:
Damn, worker will have to wait 1 turn for Animal Husbandry.
Turn7:
Out new Warrior killed a Lion and now a Bear is planning to attack it
Those are too strong for our young warrior so i move away from it.We now go research the Wheel, we want roads.
Turn8:
--
Turn9:
--
Turn10:
Worker still unmoved, we can still decide if we want to cut another forest.
Downsides on settling on silks:
1. Silks won't unlock for now
2. Silk won't unlock for even after calendar. Plantation is required to truly unlock silk after calendar is researched.
3. Not a big deal we have another source of silk but:
Also, Do you guys know if there is a way to disband city in Civ4? I haven't found any.
Other than that
Offa is up
Gman on deck
1. Silks won't unlock for
now2. Silk won't unlock for
even after calendar. Plantation is required to truly unlock silk after calendar is researched.3. Not a big deal we have another source of silk but:
3a. We lose a source of silk we could trade for another lux
3b. we lose extra $$$$ that plantation provides
Also, Do you guys know if there is a way to disband city in Civ4? I haven't found any.
Other than that
Offa is up
Gman on deck
WackenOpenAir
Deity
dmanakho said:1. Silks won't unlock for
That would have done dman
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
no way to disband that I know of, other than gifting the city to a civ and then capturing and selecting the raze option
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
i can swap with offa, if he prefers. however, that would put him behind me in both games, and that may be too cruel 
(see SGOTM thread)
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
actually, tomorrow is probably bad for me, so I'll play tonight. maybe offa should slide down behind dmanakho?
